So, he delivers the punishment but not execute it. :DOriginally Posted by Palem
So, he delivers the punishment but not execute it. :D
Then for what will now be the 21st time I talked with zauper last and we talked about bour and Ya said no.
I don't have logs of you and Zauper, but the facts are that Bour was agreeing to your "punishments" of giving you back 3x the lost land and staying below your acre caps.
You openly admitted that you could care less abotu Bour's ghetto and your real demands were emeriti razing down and giving up the age YR1.
<flogger> and I appreciate your general honesty when we talked earlier, but I'm willing to open up and say what it is that I want to resolve the current issue
<flogger> since I could honestly care less about bourreau's ghetto
<flogger> all I want is an apology, an admission of what happenned, and I want the punishment being they don't go for the crown
<flogger> this is the heart of our diplomacy
<flogger> I want to quit, leave our kd to our brand new monarch to learn, fight, and probably lose
<flogger> and leave this age to like WSK, coss, our new nub without me and whoever else wants to crown
<AquaSeaFoam> what's the lates with bour?
<flogger> haven't talked to him, nor have looked
<flogger> decided to just let you know what we actually want
You are getting caught in lie after lie here yet you keep trying to spin some way out no matter how red handed you are caught. This is as obvious as it could possibly be. Your real demands were always that Emeriti raze out of the top and give up the age YR1.
You admitted you didn't care about Bour's kingdom and it didn't matter that he was agreeing to your demands of size caps and 3x the razed acres back since your actual demands were that Emeriti raze down and let BB go for the crown with no real competition. The more you lie about it when the proof is there, the worse you will make yourself look.
Last edited by AquaSeaFoam; 25-06-2015 at 18:35.
Then you said no and then i said ok then let's kill bour and u said no and then diplo ended?
No, that's not what happened. You asking to kill bour was *before* you decided to "open up and say what it is that I want to resolve the current issue since I could honestly care less about bourreau's ghetto".
Bour *agreed* to give you 3x the land back and stay small with your 1000 acre size caps. If this was raelly what you wanted, you got it. But you clearly admitted in the logs above it was not what you really wanted and what you really wanted, "the heart of our diplomacy" was for Emeriti to raze down and not compete. These demands were confirmed by Protector and also even discussed in the previous threads on the forum. Now you're trying to change history and lie about it. I can only assume you are trying to lie about it now because you must have lied to your allies about it so are now trying to change history with lies.
no im not, i simply said the next day I talked to another one of your leadership about bour and your leadership said no to restricting him.
You were just caught completely lying about the content of our talks. In our talks you directly admit you could care less about bourreau's ghetto and you are now opening up about what you actually want and the heat of your diplomacy is that emeriti razes themselves out of the top and doesn't compete so that BB can go for the crown against wsk and Coss.
The day after this, I talked to Protector and he stood by this demand. The demand was discussed in the forum over the next few days with me reiterating Emeriti was offering whatever was needed to ensure BB's position was not harmed and your side saying that wasn't enough and Emeriti needed to raze down and give up the age YR1.
Also lol that you don't seem to realize that our conversations to recruit ppl generally went like:
Us: we're fighting abs
Them: **** asf, he sucks
No lying necessary
Then why are you lying about this now?
What am I lying about? The beginning offer was bour kill himself and ending offer was that. Many things were said in between. I never said we didn't ask that. Prot and snirp were the most adamant about you dropping out. Even today snirp demands Ya drop out next age. I could sell the kd on something if bour wiped himself out.
Except for the part where you claimed to be fighting abs.
When in reality you were fighting asf.
So, you know, some lying necessary to get that Absalom heat attached to your crusade. :)
I told in the start itself, that Flogger had this last opportunity to win against ASF :D
Even in his example He didnt use 'abs' which his allies have been using since past 50000 years! He used ASF!!
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As I've said all along and you've been lying about, your real demands from the time I was involved were that Emeriti raze themselves down and agree to not compete so that BB could go for the crown against Coss and wsk. You directly admitted you didn't care about bour's ghetto and your real demands were about Emeriti. This was told to me the very first day we discussed diplomacy on this and you never once wavered in it.
What you are lying about is that instead of the truth, you are claiming that all you wanted was punishment for bour and nothing for Emeriti. This is a direct lie. Bour took the punishment BB wanted but it wasn't enough because as you stated in the logs above, the real heart of yoru diplomacy and what you actually cared abotu was Emeriti razing down and not competing.
Verminator, actually I hadn't even been playing at all this age and only made an account in a ghetto for the first time a couple days after flogger deal broke and waved into war. I was only involved in the diplomacy because he was texting me to get involved. So even the "ASF" part is pretty dubious.
I wanted a foot massage from Mithras too, i know I don't get everything i want
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