Proposal to end he Awar

[Crunch]

bla bla bla ... I'm sure i'm not the only one who has experienced the similar from abs leaders in past.. as a matter of fact very similar when asf order all of abs to raze kill wartague although his only crime was being the largest prov on the server. nothing like the **** play and lies from you guys. all the wasted time and diplo bs was all fake they just were intent to have him at zero. as far as i'm concerned you all deserve the same fate. what's with your little ghetto friend going vm. not the green we had planed for him.

[Palem]

as a matter of fact very similar when asf order all of abs to raze kill wartague although his only crime was being the largest prov on the server. nothing like the **** play and lies from you guys.

How is that ****play?


Seriously it's like some of you guys are so blinded by your insecure rage of that you guys can't even put together a coherent idea to hide just how salty you are about something that happened 15 years ago.

[Leshrak]

bla bla bla ... I'm sure i'm not the only one who has experienced the similar from abs leaders in past.. as a matter of fact very similar when asf order all of abs to raze kill wartague although his only crime was being the largest prov on the server. nothing like the **** play and lies from you guys. all the wasted time and diplo bs was all fake they just were intent to have him at zero. as far as i'm concerned you all deserve the same fate. what's with your little ghetto friend going vm. not the green we had planed for him.

PS, I'm not an abs leader and never was one in 65 ages. Keep up with the conversations and stop spreading false propaganda. Flogger was an abs leader though, are you accusing him of something? He seemed like he actually gave a crap yesterday when we talked.

[SlightlyOverdosed]

It's been almost 24h now since flogger made a proposal that I found agreeable. Very shortly after he made it and I was agreeable, he told me he had to log off for his bday to spend time with his gf, and to PM the logs to protector to get the deal finalized. I PMed them to prot 6h later, prot stalled/delayed reading them for another few hours, then argued with me for 2 hours about the terms he wanted that were different from what I'd already been offered, changed the terms (basically back to square one), and had to go sleep. Since he went to sleep, FS declared us, BB, Pyro, and TBB? Did full waves in, and now they are RKing more of our provs.

The above doesn't even mention the 24-30+ total hours I've spent talking to flogger/darkie/protector over the last 9-12 days trying to reach a deal that doesn't completely destroy our kd. But I guess they would rather destroy our kd than admit that this has gone too far from their side. Their point was made a week and a half ago.

So no, its just a bit inaccurate and insulting to suggest we aren't trying to accept punishment. They either don't seem to be at all interested in making a deal or bb has lost control of their alliance members.

Also, serious question for everyone: has bombdigie ever made a coherent, constructive addition to any discussion?

I only have sketchy knowledge of what's being negotiated now so I wasn't sure hence the question mark. Main point was about the past back when BB decided to opt for razes.
Would it be possible for the sides to post what are the propositions? What are emerity proposing, and what is it that BB wants more than that?
So people can make their own decision if BB terms are really something that might destroy a KD or that's just your interpretation. And on the flip side to judge if people agree that BB is unreasonable to accept your terms?

Frankly would be a lot more constructive than subjective opinions, but I can see how that may not be possible.
Though I could be considered as someone who posted "against" emerity I do hope the best for your KD and that you guys would have the strength to pull through these phase intact as a KD.

[13nesta13]

I only have sketchy knowledge of what's being negotiated now so I wasn't sure hence the question mark. Main point was about the past back when BB decided to opt for razes.
Would it be possible for the sides to post what are the propositions? What are emerity proposing, and what is it that BB wants more than that?
So people can make their own decision if BB terms are really something that might destroy a KD or that's just your interpretation. And on the flip side to judge if people agree that BB is unreasonable to accept your terms?

Frankly would be a lot more constructive than subjective opinions, but I can see how that may not be possible.
Though I could be considered as someone who posted "against" emerity I do hope the best for your KD and that you guys would have the strength to pull through these phase intact as a KD.

Flogger is indeed on birthday celebration. It wasn't an intention to stall whatsoever. He's perfectly entitled to a private life and some rest after some serious coordination over the last 2 weeks. As is the usual SOP where no deals are finalised yet, we simply carried on what was in our planning pipes even before discussions "looked" like the issue might come to an agreeable end on both sides.

It's an unfortunate coincidence that Emeriti started to discuss more actively about closure when we were planning 2 button pushes.

I'll share mainly the 3 premises that are ongoing and uncompleted (some may have been completed or updated since then but I may not have been privy).

The specific CF deals after this issue for all parties involved on our side to their side. So you can see why this might be a bit tricky and takes time since flogger needs to check back with members on our side if we're agreeable etc.

Emeriti's clean and sincere apology, no wordplay or smartly chosen words to cloud or deflect blame.

The final ending size restrictions put on Emeriti was discussed and not sure if there was progress in negotiations since then.

[bombdigie]

Also, serious question for everyone: has bombdigie ever made a coherent, constructive addition to any discussion?

Discussion, roflmao

Is that what you call this thread?

[Chrystal Palace]

Are you guys f+cking kidding me?! Nesta you got something to prove bro? You like the fact you guys now turned into the bad guys?! Dont worry man you wont ever be as good as cJ. At keast we kniw who actually had the talent when pyro was around. And protector why didn't you call a momentary truce? Talks were in progress. Nothing wrong with calling a temp cf. This **** has gone on long enough. I don't give two craps for emeriti but no one deserves to be treated with such **** play. Actually it should be beastblood that gets all the razes for deal break. Isn't that what happened to AMA? Because clearly worst case scenario if emeriti told someone to raze into BB eowcf and then laughed about it it wouldn't have been a deal break.

[Persain]

Except they were offered just that, from the start.
Thing is it seems like Emeriti refused (and still refusing?) to accept that they actually did anything wrong, it reeks from their posts here. And as a result they refuse any kind of punishment.
I have no idea how this will end, but I feel like it could have ended long ago.

Pretty sure Emeriti admitted to at improper play and have basically agreed to any and all terms requested with the limit being they can still war this age, they wont disband and can try to crown next age(those 3 things are pretty reasonable). My guess is it ends when the BB side is in a position to make sure any of their "top" kds can 1v1 CJ and win as CJ's cf's are basically he cant notice till the Awar is over. Any sooner end then that CJ crowns...if they drag it out long enough maybe CJ notices anyway and they get a new GB target.

[Anri]

Are you guys f+cking kidding me?! Nesta you got something to prove bro? You like the fact you guys now turned into the bad guys?! Dont worry man you wont ever be as good as cJ. At keast we kniw who actually had the talent when pyro was around. And protector why didn't you call a momentary truce? Talks were in progress. Nothing wrong with calling a temp cf. This **** has gone on long enough. I don't give two craps for emeriti but no one deserves to be treated with such **** play. Actually it should be beastblood that gets all the razes for deal break. Isn't that what happened to AMA? Because clearly worst case scenario if emeriti told someone to raze into BB eowcf and then laughed about it it wouldn't have been a deal break.

You gave them a crown last age and now you defend them? Ok

[MyNameIsMatija]

bombdigie don't mind the trolls, I for one support most of the things you said in THIS thread, keep in there bro
These people argue in circles over stuff nobody cares about, you tell it straight.

[Felonious]

bombdigie don't mind the trolls, I for one support most of the things you said in THIS thread, keep in there bro
These people argue in circles over stuff nobody cares about, you tell it straight.

lmao...

Everyone knows the guy is an idiot.

[Judge]

Pretty sure Emeriti admitted to at improper play and have basically agreed to any and all terms requested with the limit being they can still war this age, they wont disband and can try to crown next age(those 3 things are pretty reasonable). My guess is it ends when the BB side is in a position to make sure any of their "top" kds can 1v1 CJ and win as CJ's cf's are basically he cant notice till the Awar is over. Any sooner end then that CJ crowns...if they drag it out long enough maybe CJ notices anyway and they get a new GB target.

DUH!! A hostile is not a hostile if its with someone less than 50% of your networth.. Also If Pandamodium claims it to be hostile, they are exploring up provinces to match as per CJ!!

They are getting excess land in this awar, which should just have been razes.. Now they are not only able to match Crazies in terms of the land on core, but also exploring up provinces in the middle of hostile. SO how is this considered a proper hostile for them? They are just using this as a cover up to gain all land + explore..

[Judge]

lmao...

So HisnameisMatija doesnt support what protector say. One of them is a bigger idiot then? :O

[Feint]

Not sure about the past history or what.
But from I can see and sense right now:
The extent of punishment is kinda gone too far
And doesn't seem what a awar is trying to do when it first started ( to punish emeriti)
To me, it seems like growing through pure raping in the name of justice
With the intention to crown( maybe divided) among the coalition

I also understand from talks which happen in the past that if anyone help in gb in the name of justice , extra acres gain should be intra raze to promote FairPlay to rest of server and not because of personal gains and motive. Am I right ?

[Persain]

DUH!! A hostile is not a hostile if its with someone less than 50% of your networth.. Also If Pandamodium claims it to be hostile, they are exploring up provinces to match as per CJ!!

They are getting excess land in this awar, which should just have been razes.. Now they are not only able to match Crazies in terms of the land on core, but also exploring up provinces in the middle of hostile. SO how is this considered a proper hostile for them? They are just using this as a cover up to gain all land + explore..

Perhaps, but as i said from what i understand CJ cant notice untill the Awar is "over"....so as long as flogger and company keep it going and it doesnt officially end If CJ tries to notice anyone in the top 10 besides Godly/elit OR Beer 4 all OR Brewing hes joining on the awar and can be gangbanged.