Proposal to end he Awar

[Guilty Conscience]

I would like to know which "good players" you are talking about. The fact that panda skirts all my questions and just start arguing how they didn't gain as much during this awar. In the first place, is this awar a form of actioning emeriti or gaining acres? Let me know which war lets their opponent gain 41323a this time of the age. I would like to sign up to be in the war too. It seems like this whole awar becomes kds gaining acres more so then actioning emeriti as you have just posted the evidence.

And the neutral KD gained 50k.
Ofc these gains include pool also. This is the total growth for last 2 weeks.
So again i ask, did Panda really gain on Crazies?
By the looks, Crazies had free pump and Pandas did not close the gap to Crazies at all.
Simply because growing by randoms and free pumping and exploring is always better.

I should not belittle myself with a convo with someone that does not know the benefit of being in pumpmode vs hostile mode.

[bitchup420]

No point getting rude.
I am just pointing out that we gained no better position then we had before awar, it got worse.
No one said you were not free to do as you want/like. Grow, explore, random etc.
It was entirely your own choice. Its your KD coming after mine. Not the other way around.
Just not sure what you are complaining over, since you gained power on us, more then you had before awar.

Again stop deflecting. I am not complaining about anything. I was merely pointing out your failed attempts. So since you answered my 1st question and stated we were free to prepare for possible conflict with you at cf expiry...now I ask...what's the problem?

[Heiney]

And the neutral KD gained 50k.
Ofc these gains include pool also. This is the total growth for last 2 weeks.
So again i ask, did Panda really gain on Crazies?
By the looks, Crazies had free pump and Pandas did not close the gap to Crazies at all.
Simply because growing by randoms and free pumping and exploring is always better.

Arafein doesn't play in crazies. He just said he's the monarch of fluffy.
Why is it that actioning emeriti allowed u guys to gain 40ish k acres in 2 weeks? Thats a lot of acres to be gain for the excuse of actioning a kd. Stop shooting yourself.

[Feint]

hes not trolling he quit the awar

Thanks for the clarifications

[Leshrak]

hmm




BB is going to have to do some major clean up after this if they don't want to look like a bunch of scumbags. Simply not crowning yourselves isn't enough. You've got an "alliance" so this shouldn't be a problem right?

BB hasn't slowed down on the conquests of our remaining TMs, nor slowed down TMs on larger core. Though I imagine that they will slow down soon since war protection kicks in soon, and only then switch to razes.

[TheOne]

i didnt want to reply to this thread so fast. but i'll entertain guilty conscious :)

you guys gained unwhorable cow acres + top core acres.. and able to double from a high median.. i didnt check numbers.. but someone posted you gained 42k acres? a quick look at your kd shows you still have a few 'small' provinces.. which means these 52k acres went to your cows+top core. again unwhorable acres... if you could use like 8-9k pool on 5 faeries... and still have your kingdom spread.. it pretty much says where those acres went to.

during this time, my kingdom definitely gained sci+wizzies+core acres. sure. we definitely have our own benefits.

if we had fought in yr6+48hrs, you wont have the cow spread + top core to challenge..

well. this isnt the point tbh.. you join awar, you have your benefits. i decided to stay neutral and my kd have our own benefits. i never said the main issue about what you have 'gained'. the issue is that right now it's pretty much semi-pumping behind 'awar' and my kd cant issue any notice for the past few days. again i'm still willing to do a 6days notice from june 1 yr6, and have talked to cheetzy on IRC about this.

[Guilty Conscience]

Again stop deflecting. I am not complaining about anything. I was merely pointing out your failed attempts. So since you answered my 1st question and stated we were free to prepare for possible conflict with you at cf expiry...now I ask...what's the problem?

I dont think anyone on this server expected that Crazies would not grow? Nor did anyone expect to gain from awar longterm. Its more then anything resource costly and a slow process.

Let LS of each KD speak to flogger and close the awar if absalom feel they had enough and want to reach terms?

The war between Pandas and Crazies is bound to happen in time. Right?

[IrGr8Nublet]

congratz on the smokescreen pandas I see flogger is being a great mentor to all those that joined his side. next he will teach you how to use other kds to fight 4 u. Cheers mates.

[Aranfein]

I dont think being rude when asking a question should be the norm :P

But fair enough Guilty Conscience we can wait for a leader to answer the question, as for you questioning where i play, i answered that before i am Fluffylicious monarch and has no ties to cJ's kd or anyone else for that matter, I play for my kingdom and mine alone, i do hold high ethics and i expect the same of my kingdom mates.

If someone ****plays me i can be harsh/hold grudges (ask CR/zauper) but thats part of the game so i enjoy it, just like i dont mind some kingdoms having grudge on mine, fully expected as you cant make everyone happy.

Again last age and age before when Pyro won, yes cJ did some dodgy stuff but he didnt "cheat" to my knowledge, as and last age cJ wanted to FSU a bit nothing wrong in that, but you pulling up things from last age to justify your own/gain support against cJ is hardly fair... cJ by all accounts here in forum has given more then a fair deal for a war, especially as your sitting pumping with schools and growing cows while "supposedly" being in war (yes awar is war whether it says so on the stance or not), so how is that fair?

To my recollection ive never seen a kingdom at war sit and pump with schools etc.

Ill try again as you said you couldnt answer and i just want to know once a leader comes on, did BB or did they not promise you a shot at crown for joining in? I want to know because as i mentioned above that seems extremely hypocritical if thats the case. (before anyone get their knickers in a twist, im asking im not accusing)

[Spice]

Emeriti allready accepted all the terms demanded by BB, then BB decided they cant win vs crasies and just continues the bullocks

[Guilty Conscience]

i didnt want to reply to this thread so fast. but i'll entertain guilty conscious :)

you guys gained unwhorable cow acres + top core acres.. and able to double from a high median.. i didnt check numbers.. but someone posted you gained 52k acres? a quick look at your kd shows you still have a few 'small' provinces.. which means these 52k acres went to your cows+top core. again unwhorable acres... if you could use like 8-9k pool on 5 faeries... and still have your kingdom spread.. it pretty much says where those acres went to.

during this time, my kingdom definitely gained sci+wizzies+core acres. sure. we definitely have our own benefits.

if we had fought in yr6+48hrs, you wont have the cow spread + top core to challenge..

well. this isnt the point tbh.. you join awar, you have your benefits. i decided to stay neutral and my kd have our own benefits. i never said the main issue about what you have 'gained'. the issue is that right now it's pretty much semi-pumping behind 'awar' and my kd cant issue any notice. again i'm still willing to do a 6days notice from june 1 yr6, and have talked to cheetzy on IRC about this.

Im glad you are throwing numbers around. If you try .listgrowthHours or check munkbot you can see all statistics. Can compare both of the KDs side by side and get nice graphs to compare us. The awar is not a benefit, its fighting for something you believe in. You choose not to, thats not our problem. You got into a OP position by being neutral and complain? Pls
52k land, lol.

You for real think we gained 52k land in awar? Crazies fit you.

[Heiney]

I dont think anyone on this server expected that Crazies would not grow? Nor did anyone expect to gain from awar longterm. Its more then anything resource costly and a slow process.

Let LS of each KD speak to flogger and close the awar if absalom feel they had enough and want to reach terms?

The war between Pandas and Crazies is bound to happen in time. Right?

We would still have been in our chillax ghetto mode if panda didn't use a lame excuse to gain 7k acres of meep. "oh, we saw 1 stray hit, 60 plus razes doesn't mean anything now. Lets just wave for 3.5k acres then ask for another 3.5k acres. They can't do anything about it."

[Palem]

I dont think anyone on this server expected that Crazies would not grow? Nor did anyone expect to gain from awar longterm. Its more then anything resource costly and a slow process.

Let LS of each KD speak to flogger and close the awar if absalom feel they had enough and want to reach terms?

The war between Pandas and Crazies is bound to happen in time. Right?

You're out of your mind if you think you're entitled to keep the acres you gained from gangbanging a kingdom.

[Persain]

Growth cJ last 2 weeks, 336h.
50376a

Growth Pandas last 2 weeks, 336h.
41323a

How did Pandas gain anything on Crazies?
While Pandas fought in awar Crazies pumped and did what they wanted?

If it had been about winning, awar is not a benefit, its crippling yourself vs a neutral KD and it had been most fair if both KDs warred 1 or 2 weeks ago..

You join an awar for the purpose of the awar, You know that its going to cost you acres and pump time when it ends. Thats y to the people who care the "Crowns" earned during past awar ages view them as lackluster. Basically had the Flogger "alliance" not just been kds that want land safely using GB's CJ or Elit/Godly should have a massive advantage and a free shot at crowning. Instead CJ is being told to "wait" while his advantage of "staying out" gets pissed away by an "alliance" that has already won but wont accept the victory offered. Thus even with their win

CJ wants to break the deal

they setup a new target whose left to fend off 1v6 kds who all sit in the top.

Divinity was not hitted for days by the alliance and even if theyr entire alliance was falling all they were doing was: razing us for some reasons all this time...(we took SN and despite the fact meep kd was getting killed, emeriti was getting GBed but no they didnt cared.. they had something with us :P) and after sleepy surrendered they ganged up with theyr outsider/friend/multi or whateva(Infinity wave) and PKed one of us - and yes we took this personal PersainCAT cuz it was a personal act on us, dont try and hide behind this whole awar for this.

The Awar might have been lost or lost-ish but if it was going to continue on as was obvious by the lack of BB/Flogger being able to accept a surrender the best "position" for emeriti's side was for my kd to have a shot at beating u guys. Thus the razes, PK, and the focus when our other kds were in an un-winnable position. If u cant accept 1 dead prov y would you join in on the awar? If you're actually a PART of the awar and not just a greedy self intrested kd you should be talking to the leader of your alliance saying u want more out of a group "surrender." As i told Stefan there's no reason we'd individually cf as it doesn't stop us from being gangbanged or pulling you/us out of the awar thats not how this works. But then again BB is dodging surrender attempts by Emeriti which involve group cf, so maybe its a good thing because getting those cfs would require BB to raze down their "allies" for not stopping.

[bitchup420]

I dont think anyone on this server expected that Crazies would not grow? Nor did anyone expect to gain from awar longterm. Its more then anything resource costly and a slow process.

Let LS of each KD speak to flogger and close the awar if absalom feel they had enough and want to reach terms?

The war between Pandas and Crazies is bound to happen in time. Right?

Ok. Does this mean you are going to stop posting garbage in circulus in demonstrando or petitio principi