Proposal to end he Awar

[jdorje]

[10:30] <stefan192> killing an 2,5 mil books prov was unnecesary

I'm sorry, but what? You broke an eoa ceasefire to wave meep for acres, claiming to be doing so justified by the alliance war, and you want reparations for all the damage done to you so as to make sure you actually profit from your dealbreak? Jesus dude.

Your side failed it so hard that's all there's left to it. What did you think? That after winning the first conflict the winning side would just stop there? I'm sure that's what your ethics driven leadership would do if the roles were reversed.

We never had an alliance before, so yes it was just a gb. We never expected to win against bb/pyro/jerks/fs, but we did. Then you (pandas), who had already gotten a free wave from meep on the condition that you stay out of the war, broke your word a second time and entered the war. You've gained how many acres from this by breaking your deals? With what justification? Please explain.

If our roles were reversed our alliance leadership would make reasonable ceasefires with every kingdom. We would not have to go consult every involved kingdom first to make sure they were happy with the acreage they ended at.

FWIW if your alliance is falling apart, you are free to make individual ceasefires with us as well. The same deal offered to flogger will be offered to you.

I would be proud to screw Emeriti and i would also be razing them down in attempt of put them all on 400a until Dorje and the rest had apologized to moi right here in the forums for last age ****play.

You can't apologize for something you didn't do, Anri. You may feel free to apologize to me for all the times you ****played Sanctuary over the ages though.

Nice of you dorje to confirm that Emeriti is indeed in an alliance.

Yes, prior to this gb we were stupid enough to try to go independent. We held ourselves to a higher standard than other kingdoms at the top - no farming of gold or acres from our allies, for instance, and when we did make a mistake as with the raze on BB compensation was immediately offered. We've now realized the error there; trying to deal with flogger in good faith and without an alliance to back us up was a huge mistake. The game without alliances is most fun, but it's unstable because one alliance can simply be assembled to win the game and without more alliances to stop it they will inevitably succeed.

The most stable state, btw, is three alliances. That way if one of them does bull**** like this the other two will put an end to it. If one alliance actions another they'd better have a damn good justification to keep the third alliance neutral.

FS joined the awar because the general consensus in FS was that fights in Utopia shouldn't be about calling your friends to help you. Keep it a clean 1KDvs1KD and none of this would ever have happened.

Yet again, I call bull****. Why are you not gb'ing pyro for farming gold to fight us last age? Why are you not gb'ing bb for accepting the acre compensation offered for the bour raze, and then pumping on those acres to dealbreak later and wave into war? Is it, maybe, because you are allied to BB and not to us? I'll grant that FS and Jerks are not motivated by greed the way Pyro, WSK, and Pandas are, but you still aren't doing this because it's the right thing.