Proposal to end he Awar

[Aranfein]

I think your wrong i posted what you gained in 48hrs Diabiticmoose and its as i pasted..

4270 acres and 1.132mil NW, so no its not just 1200acres and only 1 of your provinces lost a bit in those 48hrs which is "DontAskPeopleChangeProvNames" he lost 270, rest of you have gained.

You do know all the intel is freely available on munk website right?

[MyNameIsMatija]

My laugh was genuine and non-condescending, I know your faction has issues grasping such concepts so might find them humorous and laughable.

[bombdigie]

CJ you will get your war, just need some patience, at no point will you not have the advantage, right? So just patience, yeah?

I fully expect you guys to crown this age if its your goal and that's pretty good because you were neutral party throughout the whole thing.

Yeah just looked at your kingdom page, you guys are golden rest of age, you've done this before, you know exactly what to do. Amazing job my friend, grats to all I crowned with 2 ages ago. 2 crowns in 3 ages, and one of them will be won without even planning for it at start of age. :)

[Guilty Conscience]

I appreciate your honesty at admitting your shtplay here.

Not sure why you think Pandas would run a stereotype warbuild across many days/weeks of fighting?
If more banks, homes or schools are needed they will be built in proper timing, most players have good prov management and will use any hours they can to pump extra gc or science. If the top was won and u are a t/m it makes no sense to be in full war build. This is what TheOne is annoyed about. He got bigger banks and stronger position overall, still he complains. We cant draft as much solds as we want, we cant pump non stop, the longer this fight progress, the better it is for him, so i seriously dont know what it is he wants, were fighting in awar, he should go and crown and care less what others do, him being neutral and all. Time is his friend, not his enemy. If he plays his cards right he might get into the strongest crown position on the server, so stop complaining. By joining awar we gave Crazies best chance they can get to crown.

[Guilty Conscience]

You are NOW in fort cos you have already taken most of our top core acres. You have nothing to gains from us now and just to show to the world, you are razing us.

Atleast say something that will make people believe it!

That is how you interpret it. I want to see 25 dead provs in your KD and TheOne can go crown if he likes. But i am just a core player so i wont be the one deciding your faith.

[Palem]

I am in no way shooting myself. Ofc we join awar to action Emeriti, the **** they did towards BB was just one of many things they done over the ages, them giving the server a reason to jump them was bad. Clear evidence and lots of logs and forum posts filled with lies.

Yea, it's almost as bad as what Panda is doing right now, leveraging a gangbang into a crown run.

[Guilty Conscience]

I guess sitting on 555.7 MILLION gc is not enough for Crazies.
22.2 million gc average per prov in stocked gold.
Wonder how much bpa they have stocked.

I just find it very funny they complain and whine so much... For very clear reasons...

[Aranfein]

argh, Palem whyyyyyy - I agree with Palem :o

Guilty Conscience, that is not relevent at all what they sit on, the relevance is that they are being bullied not to notice you while you sit and pump etc. cJ been more then fair to give 6 days things considered.

+ the fact that it seems to be BB protecting you, so seeing everyone is quiet about it, did BB promise you a shot at crown for joining in? still waiting for answer here :/

[Diabeticmoose]

Didn't know I had to stay tagged to be tagged.. All knows we're out there doing our thing .. So again don't preach likenu know it all not even considered opinion in that matter .. Also does munk show exploration and how much we explored ? Because I can tell u we explored as well in between ....

[Guilty Conscience]

Yea, it's almost as bad as what Panda is doing right now, leveraging a gangbang into a crown run.

A crown is not made thru awar. A crown is made thru being neutral and scheming against the awar participants.
The only dumb mistake cJ is doing is really coming here and whine about it.

[Judge]

So now BB will act as Lil naughts Panda's dad and force CJ to accept terms or actually take an effort to end this ****? :O

[Diabeticmoose]

Also consider all the raze waves we've done .. Raze into a war not only consumed alot of resources but time .. U know how many meets die for a cleric on a raze hitting into war ? And u think were in it for the benefit ?;if we were then how come we aren't 10-15k larger then what we r now ?

[AquaSeaFoam]

FS joined the awar because the general consensus in FS was that fights in Utopia shouldn't be about calling your friends to help you. Keep it a clean 1KDvs1KD and none of this would ever have happened.

Huh, I thought FS was called in by their friends to help BB and joined since their friends BB helped FS gb another kingdom for them last age.

[jdorje]

Or else no deal flogger makes will stop all the indy hitters.

Isn't that what flogger claims is the reason for the gb in the first place?

I think what I wrote reads pretty clearly, you can call it what you want.
Are you saying Emeriti won against multiple KDs on their own? That's a bunch of lies, you had your usual lackey KDs fighting for you where BB only had FS and some others willing to fight against injustice and for the record you didn't win anything even with the advantage you had, BB still had it's advantages like being the biggest KD and FS having a highly defended elven core and playing it more coordinated than you did, Pandas joining only sealed your fate nothing else, it was anyones game so stop telling lies (not sure who you are trying to sell this to, yourself, your allies or the general public but I for one am not buying it). You are welcome to spin this thing as much as you want but we've all seen the logs which show how highly you value fair play over gaining an advantage that would put you over the opposition.

The only side that's lied in this is yours. We beat pyro in what most (including me, and I would say I'm the best war analyst currently playing) would call an unwinnable war; our only ally before this started was divinity who was 20k acres. "Usual lackey kingdoms"? Are you kidding me? I'd never spoken or even heard of meep or apocalypse, or their kingdoms, before this bull**** started. BB at 75k, pyro at 65k, jerks at 35k, fs at 28k, and blood brothers at ~40k started razekilling us into war out of the blue. We had ourselves at 70k, meep at 48k, apoc (outsiders) at 27k, and approximately 5k acres of provinces from bour's ghetto. And we got a 50% war win on pyro.

At that point wsk and pandas dealbroke to wave our kingdoms for acres, while emeriti despite being razed for 40k acres by a dozen or so kingdoms didn't have button on any of them (BROKEN MECHANICS PLEASE FIX. YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RAZE SOMEONE 500 TIMES WITHOUT THEM DECLARING YOU). So yes that's what swung the war.

only real solution is complete destruction of abs, fake rage, Emeriti whatever you want to call them.. everyone dealing with the bs diplo you know what i say is correct.

Yes we know that was your group's goal from the start. You can stop bragging about it. My counter argument is that the game has no place for filthy play like yours, and it is you that should stop playing utopia.

[scheffie]

A crown is not made thru awar. A crown is made thru being neutral and scheming against the awar participants.
The only dumb mistake cJ is doing is really coming here and whine about it.

History tells us different. Alliances gives crowns and fun factor: ur side wanted to break the power of alliances. Yet you cant answer the question whether BB offered the crown to you. And btw .. if there is anyone whining its you. Just fill in the blanks and clear stuff up instead of bringing unrelated stuff into the topic to dodge the question. Idea: call ur kd 'The Dodgers' .. would fit way better!!