Roll back age

[Godly]

Why would there be a reset? They handled this the correct way this time. Problem -> Pause. This is unlike last round where there was 24-48 hr window where you could not aid and they didn't do anything about it. Kingdoms who had an aid-based strategy were absolutely ruined.

Everyone who is saying there should be a reset has had a bad protection and it had nothing to do with this bug, or pause.

[Sheister]

Not at all Godly. I would argue that people have taken more hits than they otherwise would have (relative to the number they send out) as a result of this pause. It makes a difference.

At a minimum, byt the time the late hitters have logged on, more defense would have been trained so it would have cost them more offense to send out. This has been a winfall for later loggers.

[Godly]

So you're upset that the less active players have had a larger opportunity window to make their first hit? You're just a bad player. You're supposed to be in a top tier kingdom and yet you're crying about noobs.

[Loons]

Bishop technically there is no advantage as troops and everything comes home at the same time. However, as said above those that didnt hit in the oop tick has had 24 hours to calmly intel provs with no rush whatsoever to find their perfect target instead of the frenzy of the oop tick.

In addition kingdoms going for a full wave have had 24 ticks to intel other kingdoms, had time to strategize and get an organized wave in instead of a frenzy wave. This is a huge advantage to the aggressor kingdom. Specially if they have chosen to wait to close of end of freeze time, as it gives the defending kingdom much less time to strategize.

[Sheister]

So you're upset that the less active players have had a larger opportunity window to make their first hit? You're just a bad player. You're supposed to be in a top tier kingdom and yet you're crying about noobs.

No, I am not crying about noobs, I am saying they have gotten help they otherwise would not have had. It changes a lot.

Bishop technically there is no advantage as troops and everything comes home at the same time. However, as said above those that didnt hit in the oop tick has had 24 hours to calmly intel provs with no rush whatsoever to find their perfect target instead of the frenzy of the oop tick.

In addition kingdoms going for a full wave have had 24 ticks to intel other kingdoms, had time to strategize and get an organized wave in instead of a frenzy wave. This is a huge advantage to the aggressor kingdom. Specially if they have chosen to wait to close of end of freeze time, as it gives the defending kingdom much less time to strategize.

This is another valid point.

Another one is that there are people who woke up at 3am their time to make these things happen to gain an advantage. Now you are slapping them in the face.

[Godly]

I would love to come on here and complain about this round and get a reset since I only hit for 150 (very low number for me), but I'm a fair person.

Bishop technically there is no advantage as troops and everything comes home at the same time. However, as said above those that didnt hit in the oop tick has had 24 hours to calmly intel provs with no rush whatsoever to find their perfect target instead of the frenzy of the oop tick.

In addition kingdoms going for a full wave have had 24 ticks to intel other kingdoms, had time to strategize and get an organized wave in instead of a frenzy wave. This is a huge advantage to the aggressor kingdom. Specially if they have chosen to wait to close of end of freeze time, as it gives the defending kingdom much less time to strategize.

No, the disadvantage is, of course, that all of the really good targets were gone in the first minute by people like me. Like you guys keep reaching, there is nothing there. I can somewhat agree on the "strategy" component of getting an additional 24 hours, but at the same time, come on people.. this is utopia... does it really take that long to know if you're going to fight or run?

[lampost]

Also, this would not take another week. They can set freeze time for whatever length they want. It can reset and be going again in 48 hrs with a Monday OOP.

If their was a reason to restart, it would only be fair to give the same freeze time and even tinker with races and personalities again. People have played their cards already and kds need a freeze time to re-think and re-prepare. Obviously kds like yours only need a short freeze time, your all on utopia all day!

EXCEPT also that this was done by COMPLETE NEGLIGENCE in coding by the developers. Mistakes happen, but then you should do what is the best correction not put the onus on others to "take the challenge".

I dont think this is the basis of the decision, that was merely a side point. My point about evening things out was not to say that its ideal, I'm just saying that it effects ALL super kds who login to attack with the same drawback. When these things happen during the age there are just random kds who are unlucky and get screwed.

Except this is done AT THE BEGINNING before anyone has invested anything, so it is almost completely not disadvantaging the less competitive kingdoms and those that have not logged in. Except that it is done AT THE BEGINNING where initial moves are more critical to one segment of the game than others.

I disagree, people have invested. And its sometimes much more difficult for smaller kds to get organised and keep hold of their players. This only makes things worse for them.

[Sheister]

How would a reset make it worse for them lampost? I don't see your point there.

The investment point I made is regarding the level of development of the provinces in the game.

[Godly]

Like based on these posts, I can safely conclude that Pyro had a bad OOP. There is no justification for a "pro" player to be this concerned about giving noobs 24 hours to make an attack or "strategize." The drawback of resetting? How are you going to tell the people who logged in for every tick, showed up OOP, made great hits, etc. that they have to do it again due to Sheister getting hit by noobs, which would have happened in both worlds.

[lampost]

How would a reset make it worse for them lampost? I don't see your point there.

The investment point I made is regarding the level of development of the provinces in the game.

I got your point. Coming from the ghetto, its tough to recruit, tough to encourage, tough to create energy and tough to keep people together. At the top end you guys easily get 25 and if someone slips out there are 10 others willing to take his place. Restarting for some minor disadvantage clearly benefits the top kds ( in comparison to what would have been had the age not started like this.)

Again I'm not saying it does not suck to hit through the lag, we all hate it. But to restart the age over it??? I can think of worse things.

[lampost]

Like based on these posts, I can safely conclude that Pyro had a bad OOP. There is no justification for a "pro" player to be this concerned about giving noobs 24 hours to make an attack or "strategize." The drawback of resetting? How are you going to tell the people who logged in for every tick, showed up OOP, made great hits, etc. that they have to do it again due to Sheister getting hit by noobs, which would have happened in both worlds.

This seems to be the case, we even had Nesta on here complaining about all islands being revealed or something like that. But that's all besides the point.

[chalsdk]

I don't see any compelling argument why we should.

let me help you, its good for the game! its When you ****ed it up badly, its good to throw in a bone as well to make up for peaples hurtness, else they just go somewhere else..

But then, there is a reason why this game is loosing 10-20% of its playerbase an age

[Sheister]

Like based on these posts, I can safely conclude that Pyro had a bad OOP. There is no justification for a "pro" player to be this concerned about giving noobs 24 hours to make an attack or "strategize." The drawback of resetting? How are you going to tell the people who logged in for every tick, showed up OOP, made great hits, etc. that they have to do it again due to Sheister getting hit by noobs, which would have happened in both worlds.

Irrelevant conjecture Godly, but whatever....

[lampost]

let me help you, its good for the game! its When you ****ed it up badly, its good to throw in a bone as well to make up for peaples hurtness, else they just go somewhere else..

But then, there is a reason why this game is loosing 10-20% of its playerbase an age

Now that's just not nice. (aside for being wrong)

[Loons]

FYI i always have a bad oop due to ****ty connection, so for me it doesnt matter if we continue or reset. Either way i will have a bad oop.

Godly, yes all the good targets with armies home have been hit, now though with the freeze it has opened up a **** ton of GREAT targets with army out with tons of offense and very low defense, that you can now strategically beat home by doing minus hours. Something pro players may do even during the frenzy. I understand this is always possible, however like i said before now you can do this without any rush, ie forgetting to minus hrs etc....