The U (#4) v/s Settlers (#5)

[flogger]

Top play is all about justifying your actions, and its usually better if you are in a position of power. And the lack of proper whoring competition thus far other than emeriti and cr just makes things even trickier. I'm pretty sure if there are a few more kingdoms all much closer to the #1-#2 range, events would definitely be different.

maybe if nubs didn't seek out the competition for OOP waves it'd be closer!

Also, how is palem just consistently wrong about everything at all times yet a mod. Its baffling.

[bombdigie]

SNARF!

[Meep]

maybe if nubs didn't seek out the competition for OOP waves it'd be closer!

Also, how is palem just consistently wrong about everything at all times yet a mod. Its baffling.

It's a gift really. Palem has had years to hone the art form of being wrong.

[Chrystal Palace]

maybe if nubs didn't seek out the competition for OOP waves it'd be closer!

Also, how is palem just consistently wrong about everything at all times yet a mod. Its baffling.

dont you pick on my lover palem!!!! i will kill you but not like dead or anything. maybe kill you with kissy face.

[Korp]

Statement number 1:


Follow up:


Follow up adds nothing to statement #1. Follow up explains the logic behind statement #1 for those that are going to howl at the moon because they don't understand what's being said.

The only thing that I said that actually did add anything to statement 1, was that I was talking about currently (beginning of the middle of the age), and I conceded that any garbage kingdom could be top 3 before diplo had really started and the top kingdoms had taken over the top

But hey, let's keep arguing about a pointless, throwaway comment that Palem made because god forbid you call him out and actually be wrong about something.

Yes, it adds a lot, its a lot of specifics of what a none ghetto is when your first explaination was "Top 3" nothing more. There is no logic behind your first statement, its quite simple statement and when pointed out on it you decided that to add stuff and claim its obvious that what you mean when you said "top 3" was "Later in the age with a bunch of good players and a good leader that knows how to diplo"

I dont see why its so hard to admit that your first there was poorly written instead of trying to save face so badly making up stuff afterhand.

[makeo]

*idly notes it's Sunday and Korp vs Pam is on TV again* :(

Edit: I shall watch Doctor Who instead

[Korp]

*idly notes it's Sunday and Korp vs Pam is on TV again* :(

Edit: I shall watch Doctor Who instead

You missed it, Doctor Who aired last night.

[protector]

@Prot (because you refuse to limit your replies into one easy to quote post lol) - I'm quite sure cRAZiEs got drug through the mud last age because they wanted acres for their CF's even though the altruist and benevolent Expendables gave out CFs like they were delicious little snack sized snickers on halloween.

Again, there are factors that decide whether or not a kingdom cfs for free or not. Here's a couple: greed, competition. Clearly greed is a factor vs weaker kingdoms which some people overdo. The competition factor is rather logical, you don't want to extend a kingdom for free when you're in a good position to beat em now but later you may not due to factors like setup or whether or not someone may get an easy war while you may not.

[Palem]

I lol'ed

Yes, it adds a lot, its a lot of specifics of what a none ghetto is when your first explaination was "Top 3" nothing more. There is no logic behind your first statement, its quite simple statement and when pointed out on it you decided that to add stuff and claim its obvious that what you mean when you said "top 3" was "Later in the age with a bunch of good players and a good leader that knows how to diplo"

I dont see why its so hard to admit that your first there was poorly written instead of trying to save face so badly making up stuff afterhand.

I'm not sure what else to say at this point other than you are incorrect. The followup statement just explained what it takes to actually be in the top 3 at this point. It added absolutely nothing to my original statement. I took no steps forwards, nor backwards, nor to the side of whether or not a kingdom in the top 3 is a ghetto. Allow me provide another example outside of utopia to show just how Palem-blind you all have become.

Statement:
Perfect circles do not exist in the real world.

Follow up:
A circle is a shape in which all points are equidistant from the center. Since real world shapes have mass/depth, this is impossible to achieve. While we can get reasonably close, the material we're trying to make the circle out of will have imperfections, thus the circle will not be perfect.


Follow up adds absolutely nothing to the statement. It just explains what I'm talking about for people that don't understand. You all, very, very, clearly didn't/don't understand, thus a followup explaining what I'm talking about was required. But just to really drive my point home, Let's focus in what exactly you're saying, namely:

Yes, it adds a lot, its a lot of specifics of what a none ghetto is when your first explaination was "Top 3" nothing more.

The only way it "adds" anything is if you aren't aware of general information about the game. Things like "Inactives don't log in a lot" and "Ghettos are bad kingdoms" don't add anything to a statement because it's implied information. You and everyone else playing dumb have a general understand of utopia. So please, explain to me which part of this wasn't something you should have already known. Was it...

A:

It's year 4.

B:

The only way you're going to be in the top 3 is if you have quality players and leaders that can navigate top diplo.

C:

Otherwise you'd have been farmed because you can't defend yourself.

D:

If you CAN defend yourself from the top kingdoms farming you, then you're hardly a ghetto.

The only one that seems remotely applicable is D, which, for the 5th time, would simply stem from a different understanding of what we consider a ghetto to be, which would make anything I say about ghettos generally useless to you, but it wouldn't make what I'm saying any less incorrect.

But I'm done wasting time on such an utterly stupid and pointless conversation.

[Nightmare_]

Nope, AMA/Sanct/Havoc situation entailed AMA warring Sanct, AMA winning. Havoc telling they would notice, AMA coming out of eowcf, Sanct stealing AMA cow, Havoc noticing, AMA claiming non legit notice because fellow Abs Ally Sanct clearly just restarted conflict, AMA waves Sanct, Sanct retalwars for several days. Sanct stops hits for 12hrs, claims that means no hostile, Havoc waves AMA. So cf going up is at no point required according to precedents made

What happens to the story when people are told that AMA would've waved Sanctuary, regardless of what had transpired, in order to dodge Havoc? ;)

[Korp]

Follow up adds absolutely nothing to the statement. It just explains what I'm talking about for people that don't understand. You all, very, very, clearly didn't/don't understand, thus a followup explaining what I'm talking about was required. But just to really drive my point home, Let's focus in what exactly you're saying, namely:

The only way it "adds" anything is if you aren't aware of general information about the game. Things like "Inactives don't log in a lot" and "Ghettos are bad kingdoms" don't add anything to a statement because it's implied information. You and everyone else playing dumb have a general understand of utopia. So please, explain to me which part of this wasn't something you should have already known. Was it...

Your follow up defines it into more specific terms rather than your initial statement whereas it was "Top 3 isnt ghetto" in which anyone that at anytime in an age could be considered not ghetto just for being in top 3. Its not my fault that you cant admit you made a poor statement then try to cover your ass by defining your statement afterwards then pretend like "You should have known what I meant!!!"

[MyNameIsMatija]

What is this "x:x"? Can I eat it?

And thanks for the update Palem - I was thinking it was year 3 still!

[Anri]

maybe if nubs didn't seek out the competition for OOP waves it'd be closer!

Maybe if nubs didn't seek out the competition...
Then i guess you would still only have 0/1 instead of 0/3 on KD page soon.
Am i right Mr Tactical wd?

[flogger]

Maybe if nubs didn't seek out the competition...
Then i guess you would still only have 0/1 instead of 0/3 on KD page soon.
Am i right Mr Tactical wd?

You know things are bad when anri starts making fun of you for losing a fight. Guess next age we'll just go back to being boring and CF'ing the good kds like CR and waving people as soon as they get outta war with em ;p

[Anri]

You know things are bad when anri starts making fun of you for losing a fight. Guess next age we'll just go back to being boring and CF'ing the good kds like CR and waving people as soon as they get outta war with em ;p

Be boring have been your specialty for many ages now, so maybe you should. CFing all and getting farmwars been your thing hasnt it?

Edit: I will not derail any further