Your deal offer had nowhere written that if not cfed on 7th then deal doesnt exist!Originally Posted by beans
Your deal offer had nowhere written that if not cfed on 7th then deal doesnt exist!
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Wrong, the deal specifically said NO LATER THAN 7th. When asked about accepting on 8th they were told no, but did it any way and never followed up with more diplo for new terms.
"2. CF will be offered now, and only accepted after the full wave is done and no later than 7th (be it final minute of the 7th)."
We didnt put "NO LATER" in the deal because we meant "accept this deal after the 7th and every thing is cool". We put in "NO LATER" because (obviously giving the wording) the deal was not valid if the CF was taken after the 7th.
Judge, why is it so hard for you to understand...
simply this is just like when you passed your paper to your teacher 1 minute late of the deadline and your teacher still accepted it but it means it has already deductions etc since its late. does your teacher say to you "oh this is late, -50%"? no, it is automatic, student should know already.
we negotiated in good faith, you guys came to the conclusion that on EQUAL acres you guys would not war us....you simply wouldnt/couldnt fight us. Our wave into you was done for minimal damage as a show of "dont offer us a fake war" because we dont want do deal with people like that. We would have waved you for 5 weeks if thats what it took to get a cf with you because we detest cheating and overall just dont like the mannor in which you guys have been playing.
If your kd is going to play games when we made an eoa cf in good faith with realistic terms then these types of things are the response...espically when we continue to offer "reasonable" alternatives to a gb and are told..."no you should give us 15k honor since we attacked you"
if your going to play games we can all do that thing is emeriti/ CR / the U have so far all agreed that what u did was a CLEAR deal break. If all u wanna do is argue you' wright there fine, go for it...theres no point in me argueing the actual words said.
The intent and implication u guys gave was for us to read it as a full eoacf even though u planed to break it. Thing is even AFTER all this for your deceitful attempts at a cf and the 5+ hours i had to talk to top kds and make my ally in emeriti negotiate with all other top kds so they could help i STILL offered many resonable things. The simplest of being eat as much damage to each of your t/ms as we took, drop down to our pre wave sizes...and we can war each other....it can even be your instant declare, with your setup that favors instant declares just both sides take a few days to get hits/sizes/re-pumped. The most obscure offering be "give us something equal in value to my first suggstion. What isn't acceptable is they way you played, to demand 15k honor, then 10k honor then 10k land, then well lets just cf" Sorry no, you screwed up take a small beating.
Its not like i said you can go above 80k honor or fight another war this age....or said u have self pk 4 people. At worst my offer was setting you up to be farmed. Don't like it fine maybe its a bit much, but a war on 96.5 v 91.5-ISH(you could grow a little) was literally offered to you <24 hours before u waved us if we could do 1 full fort stance and having a 3% land advantage is hardly enough to make things insanely 1-sided give our setups and instant declare offer.
Last edited by Persain; 16-11-2015 at 20:21.
So a much larger KD at the time waves a smaller kd... Sends them a dragon. The little kd says no let's work something out, cf before the 7th and we can wait it out? Big kd hits till the 8th. Cf accepted. Little kd retaliates to hit back the damage they wrongfully recived in the first place, no dragon, one wave? Man the white knights are lacking in this game now a days huh?
This will teach the smaller KD's to stand up for themseleves. Good job big KDs out there. New people if you are reading this. Look forward to this for your whole playtime =)
Have fun
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we were 8 or 9% larger...waved because they were trying to cheat, actually break the game rules. Is told waving stop when a cf is up and says any cf is eoa, gets cf. Sure again spin it however you want but if the cheaters are being honest they wouldnt be facing whats going on now. Remember this NOT is the first time war kds have had issues; Strippers, Stoners both got beat to **** and disbanded because war kds and top kds didnt like how they played. Be open/honest and reasonable and there are no worries.
See. There it is. "War kd and top kd's" they will push you out all the little kds. They are all allied together and fine sitting atop thier throne. Bullying small kds is what they are good at. New people beware. When there is noone left to play because they gb everyone out of the game there will only be growth kds. No more wars
you do realize any kd basically oustide the top 10 and bottom 15 or so are war kds. the #9 kd in the game is hardly "little kds".
Just saying I've seen this before. The top 4 or 5 ban together if they see anyone as a threat and try to get them to disban. It has happened and always will happen. It's happening now. Thats why this game is not going anywhere. But you can see it how you want to. You admitted you would get top kds to take out anyone that they didn't see fit in how they played the game.
Your words not mine
Btw. My opinon on the game isn't a new one. And this thread just proves it. It is obvious the big kd is trying to spin this "deal break" into thier favor so the community backs them and they can justifiably whipe out the smaller kd which poses a threat to thier throne. Good for the smaller kd. I back them 100%
Nope.
If ya ask anyone in the war tier, Divinity are pretty straight up and Spartans...well they ain't. =)
You are projecting your own bias.
You cant unilaterally decide that any cf is eoa cf no matter if you meet our conditions or not. We offered a deal and you didn't meat the terms, if you wanted a different terms you needed to get our consent.
If offering to min time WD to get a kd to war us is against the rules you could have just said no and told us that it was against the game rules (although i still havnt found that in the rules). The learning curve for this game is high, and if your response to anything you dont like is to break cf and wave then dont expect your kd to be treated any differently. If you want open honest deals then prove it. Instead of taking our attempt at getting a kd to war us (after being turned down by 15 or so kds) and using it as an excuse to farm wave a kd in pump build why not offer us a real war deal? open/honest and reasonable, we both have waved each other (you more so on us) but there is still time for a war on even ground. Last time since you chose to break cf and wave us im guessing that your not really interested in war and rather would just get your buddies to GB us down because you failed to diplo properly and left diplo open after waving us. An even war would be more fun for us (and for you I assume unless you only enjoy griefing smaller kds) but getting GB down isnt a big deal either. A war could give this situation some resolution though, where as GBing will just make the feud go deeper.
Lol. War tier. The ones that cry when an enemy is thier size but is 100% ready to hit a kd 10% lower than them and in a pump build. I'm glad im not in that circle of "elite players".
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yea its kinda like teachers getting together and expelling kds who brings a gun into school. those terrible teachers how will murders get an education. Seriously though there an etiquette to the game. If you screw up a few times no biggy, goodness knows people can be forgiving. If you actively say...well i dont care then be prepared either play where that works or well threads like these explode and friends get called in. Thing is its more than just the top..i know kds as small as 25K acres right now who actively get help without needing to 2v1 or gb someone. i also know kds that have 3-4 people that try to GB->ragequit other kds of 3-4 people. its a war based strategy game, make friends, fight enemies, quit if you cant handle all the people that hate you. Not like heaven/bart really cares hes already claimed "i wont be playing next age" before this whole thing started our actions gota b limited to this age
we did...we said no by waving you because bart has been playing 2+ years and knows this is against the rules. in addtional AFTER we taged, AND wave AND told your kd that what u offered was cheating you guys still offered the same deal to other kds, perhaps our point wasnt made? Then again its hard to say we didnt want a real war we had a STANDING OFFER to war you with hostiles can start on date XYZ button pushed as needed. Standing offer lasted right up till the fake war offer.
Last edited by Persain; 16-11-2015 at 21:07.
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