Quote Originally Posted by Persain View Post
protector agrees what they did was wrong, however hes not friends with me anymore than you would be. so hes not changing his opinions to help a friend

bart/heave/whatever told multiple kds he never had any intention of agreeing to an eoacf. ANY offer we agree to he was going to keep it worded JUST enough that he could wave as hes doing now. I made it real clear what we were offering he accepted what i said enough that all the top kds agree it was a deal break. (and to be honest even if they thought he outplayed me we'd of asked for help its NOT acceptable to do this the only reason the top here matters at all is we ar the#9 and 10 kds. if we were the # 49 and 50 kds i wouldnt bother asking them at all and just use differnt friends. This is the EXACT reason we have friends to stop this kind of play)

If u dont want to this to be standard behavoir stand up against it. . im sure someone can come up with something we did "wrong" but we always try to make things right. As of the last msg the "best" offer we got was a flat cf and them waring us with better pumped provs on an acre total we cant reach if a couple of days.. Nothing to address their poor form, or repayment for this. Remember what the awar was fought over emeriti cant crown, isn't allowed above XYZ...it put us on opposite sides of the Awar, we saw different perspectives backed differnt kds ours issue was simply no mater what, you dont deal break if u have an issue deal with it out in the open. EXACTLY what im doing with spartans this age. they had an issue back when the eoacf when up they tell us and we'd of beaten them down back then. Now there not many options left.
Ok im getting mixed up on the issues here. Most importantly to me is the bit about the war deal offer. We can do better then a flat CF if you really have an interest in war. We'd go even acre war deal with you being able to take back acres from us until our kds are aprox equal and CF for a set time allowing you to pump. I'd even eat a some massacres BC hell why not its EOA and this would be the last war any way.

If you really have an interest in a war deal I can get in touch, I will happily go as far as what makes the war a fair fight but have no interest in giving you guys tons of extra acres over us as some sort of reparations. Yall waved a war kd whos worst crime was being desperate enough for a war that theyd offer to WD just to get a war? fake war my ass, we were not going to get land or honour out of you with how big n pumped you were. It was just going to be a fun war that wed lose. Simple fact is you pissed off a war kd and failed to properly close diplo.

-accusation about never intending to honour EOA CF... Easy accusation to make because your pissed about your failed diplo, but I dont believe bart would do that. We'd have just waited until next age. We werent even going to wave you this age despite your diplo fail except we still could not find a war. Nothing to see here unless you have logs/proof.

-sure we are being nitpicky about the deal, but we dont owe you any good will or favors so why honour a deal that was forced on us with waves and threats of more waves when the deal was not taken upon agreed terms?

-If you want to war deal lets deal, if not thats fine. I see hits coming in from your allies now which is what we expected so we aint gonna cry about it if you decide to GB instead of war.