The bottom is hot

[Persain]

And if you talking about the deal where you get 7k more acres then us and do 2x the masses then we will pass and just take the GB lol.

you mean were your t/ms eat the same number of hit per t/m we ate, and we get a 4% land advantage and both sides get as long as they need to pump for war. yes, thats SOOO unreasonable. it might be a tad heavy but i also offered "something of equivalent value/fun to the suggested war" and there was no counter other than explore to more acres than have pool for and pump with you guys haveing a land advantage. Perhaps a reasonable offer of acres/science/honor? the last offer i got was

Sender King Dirty Killer the Rogue of Moaning Murderer (Spartans)
Recipient King For Science the Sorcerer of Richard -Dick- Feynman (Divinity)
Subject Re:Yo
While I'm able to take a step back and take a beating, my KD cannot. All I can offer is my own prov. I can delete it if you want or you can rape it, whatever makes you feel good. Point is that at this stage my KD has been in so much boredom that I feel many would just quit if I gave in to it. Half has already stated they either want a fair or just battle it out.

I'm even fine first warring ya'll on even grounds,......
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first given your monarchs actions we're NOT okay to war on equal ACRES, equal streatgh maybe, but theres been a ton of wasted time/effort that will probubly need to be addressed first. To that end if your monarch wants to pk thats 1 prov thats not really addressing any real issues. you still end up with a orc warrior v undead merchant core(hint merchants need a kd to be bigger for that setpu to be "Even") and 7v6 t/ms where ours are weaker (13 massacres into our 6 t/ms is 2 per... you'll need to eat 14 massacres before its even)... that even ignores the 5 dwarfs that we'd basically have to gift u as unbrekable +unable to op now that our t/ms are weak.

[TheOne]

The only reason you guys are mad is because your lies and deception have caught up to y'all.
You know like accidentally totally by coincidence bounce waving a TM the same tik another kingdom declares....orrrr starting a dragon into a war demanding eowcf or else...or sending more powerful kingdoms to pressure kingdoms into cfs...or in this case asking for fake war and when that didnt work trying to s...play the wrong kingdom. time to face the music.

Ace that's the kind of kingdom spartans are, just so you know who you are defending here. We have warred and lost to divinity, so I am not posting this as their friend but because I like Utopia and what spartans have been doing is hurting the game.

lol. wont be surprised about this.


i'm hoping that divinity and whoever helping divinity doesnt suddenly decide to have a soft heart... dont agree with whatever **** 'fair war' or whatever beans is trying to propose to get out of his hole he created.

[beans]

you mean were your t/ms eat the same number of hit per t/m we ate, and we get a 4% land advantage and both sides get as long as they need to pump for war. yes, thats SOOO unreasonable. it might be a tad heavy but i also offered "something of equivalent value/fun to the suggested war" and there was no counter other than explore to more acres than have pool for and pump with you guys haveing a land advantage. Perhaps a reasonable offer of acres/science/honor? the last offer i got was

Sender King Dirty Killer the Rogue of Moaning Murderer (Spartans)
Recipient King For Science the Sorcerer of Richard -Dick- Feynman (Divinity)
Subject Re:Yo
While I'm able to take a step back and take a beating, my KD cannot. All I can offer is my own prov. I can delete it if you want or you can rape it, whatever makes you feel good. Point is that at this stage my KD has been in so much boredom that I feel many would just quit if I gave in to it. Half has already stated they either want a fair or just battle it out.

I'm even fine first warring ya'll on even grounds,......
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first given your monarchs actions we're NOT okay to war on equal ACRES, equal streatgh maybe, but theres been a ton of wasted time/effort that will probubly need to be addressed first. To that end if your monarch wants to pk thats 1 prov thats not really addressing any real issues. you still end up with a orc warrior v undead merchant core(hint merchants need a kd to be bigger for that setpu to be "Even") and 7v6 t/ms where ours are weaker (13 massacres into our 6 t/ms is 2 per... you'll need to eat 14 massacres before its even)... that even ignores the 5 dwarfs that we'd basically have to gift u as unbrekable +unable to op now that our t/ms are weak.

ah you want 14 massacres to our 13, that actually is reasonable. I read the deal as being twice as many massacres, IE you wanted 26 massacres. As for land, well im sure we could work something out. Honestly though trying to get a real war out of this is gonna be a huge uphill battle. I think we could do it, if it was me and you talking diplo... Bart's diplo style does not seem to work for you. However, I fking hate diplo and am happy being sucked into this when all I want to be doing is calcing builds and war strats... so If what you really want to do is just GB with emeriti then do that and I aint gonna complain (only complaint is calling us DBers, reading the logs the deal just aint there since you didnt meet an explicitly stated requirement). If you want some one to come to the table to deal I am willing, but not necessarily happy to be cast into the diplo pit lol.

As for stuff about spartan's dealings in past ages. IDK, im new this age. Warred spartan's last age and they were one of the few kds I fought that kept the to the war deal with out a bunch of BS. This age the only diplo I followed was all pretty straightforward. I'm not gonna deny **** from when I wasnt here, I guess it may be relevant to those who want to watch sparta burn. But for me I'm just looking at dealings between dicks and spartans this age.

[Persain]

ah

yup thats what we offered before calling in allies. now that its started bart would have to offer something else. cant really recoup all the losses we've taken anymore :/

[Chrystal Palace]

so whats going on? emeriti is taking acres is anyone else? is emeriti able to keep spartans under control? whats the diplo situation look like?

[protector]

Protector, your comment is hypocracy if you think back on last age, i like how your stance switch to suit friends. Maybe try and stick to what you say no matter if its friends or not.. You know what im talking about so i wont repeat it here, just keep that in mind when you wish to be the "Law, Jury and Judge"...

I don't think me and Persain are best friends, so please tell me which friend I'm helping out here. So much for the hypocrisy.

[Persain]

so whats going on? emeriti is taking acres is anyone else? is emeriti able to keep spartans under control? whats the diplo situation look like?

Emeriti took like 7k+ acres during their opening wave we sent a emerald dragon while wave #2 has been soso from Spartans giving them a total of 10k land and 13 massacres from us. Before wave #2 from Spartans they broke the cf they had with emeriti and stole a some money. I'm waiting for bart to come back with an apologetic tone and offer something reasonable if he doesnt want the natural progression that gb follows. I'll counter with something harsher than the intial offer we gave.

[Feint]

Emeriti took like 7k+ acres during their opening wave we sent a emerald dragon while wave #2 has been soso from Spartans giving them a total of 10k land and 13 massacres from us. Before wave #2 from Spartans they broke the cf they had with emeriti and stole a some money. I'm waiting for bart to come back with an apologetic tone and offer something reasonable if he doesnt want the natural progression that gb follows. I'll counter with something harsher than the intial offer we gave.

Can give a brief summary, who + who against who?

[Persain]

Can give a brief summary, who + who against who?

right now its Spartans v emeriti+divinity.

[Mithras]

In response to some statements in here that Emeriti have dealbroken Spartans; they are untrue. Emeriti asked Spartans to offer compensation to Divinity for their dealbreak and in return Spartans cancelled their eoa CF with Emeriti and stole alot of gc to fund their continued fight with Divinity. In response to that we waved Spartans.

[Artic Fox]

right now its Spartans v emeriti+divinity.

Divinity never walk alone.

[Shai]

So far its not even a gangbang if we gonna get all technical again

Divinity made 1 ambush on May 3rd and send a dragon into Spartans on May 9th.

On May 7th Spartans broke their ingame CF with Emeriti and robbed their gold, on May 10 Emeriti started hitting Spartans.

Once Divinity starts hitting Spartans together with Emeriti, then we have a gangbang going on, until then its two pretty one sided hostiles.


Edit: Also just see Mithras post that was done while I was writing this :P. Spartans have pretty much created an upcoming 2 vs 1 soley by their own actions.

[Feint]

Can I join in once I done with rebuilding... Love to kick some spartan ass----

[Chrystal Palace]

Emeriti had every right to help with this. Even if they were the ones to break cf.

[StratOcastle]

There are no innocent parties here, and on that statement I'll defend Spartans.
If anyone is having a fair but lost war against another party it was because you were thoroughly beatable.
That's overstepping a bit I agree, but just by an inch. I know it's true by my personal experiences.