And more libel and character defamation... when did i declare that, "I wont say who or what the lie is"? Also your insult on Runefire was rather unnecessary and mean spirited.Originally Posted by Uncle Ed
And more libel and character defamation... when did i declare that, "I wont say who or what the lie is"? Also your insult on Runefire was rather unnecessary and mean spirited.
#magi
so what does The U get out of razing spartans? i mean if we are just some big bully why are we razing them? for ****s and giggles? everyone thats taking spartas side really needs to do some investigating. we did not act on anything until we had looked at all angles of this mess. do we owe divinity? is divinity our allies? the answer to all of that is a no. Divinity and The U walk in complete different circles. we have no reason to help them except it was a very clear deal break.
All for one and one for Chrystal!!
Like the ads say, I'm a big boy now. I can take it :)
well if the subject was dying provinces, I would agree with you, but it wasn't so u need to read again. the subject was GHETTO BASHING which Spartans were accused of trying to do to us. I simply pointed out what my interpretation of ghetto bashing is. All caught up now Runefire?
And hey Judge, what kingdom are you in? Personally I do not think a war win is worth ruining the age for someone. People work hard building their WPA, Honor, and Sciences and to have to reset all of that because someone PK'ed you while you were sleeping is pretty ****ty. Like I said, I have been back for 2 years and we have NEVER PK'ed anyone and up until our war with Ascension we have never had anyone PK'ed. I think it is a lame tactic to use and causes people to quit the game, but I suppose you don't care about that.
If I have my way all of Sparta will be reset. Don't do dirty and you won't get got.
All for one and one for Chrystal!!
Bring it on.
Uncle Ed, ignore Khronos.. he's trolling ;)
... is that libel?
Last edited by jo.t.reid; 20-11-2015 at 10:58.
Don't kill. Make peace.
Spartans to win honor crown after farming out Fakespartans for the next 1.5 weeks
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The white knights wouldn't let it dude, even if we did go 1.5 weeks. All high honor tms (I'm one of them) are gonna get razeredddd to ash :D
Don't kill. Make peace.
Don't dealbreak and nothing would happen.
If I chain a Mystic, I'd rather it not have 15rwpa and +300% channeling and be fireballing tms, so I will take both of those things away from them.
Likewise, if a KD draws out a losing war and will not withdraw in a timely manner, they are effectively costing me 50bpa/day, so I will diligently collect that from them
Sets you up for better diploma in the future with these involved kds. By doing this you can establish the "yeah but we helped you" stance for next age. You can also gain "as you see it " favor of the community of being the knights in shining armor for the community. Policing and protecting the poor weaker kds. So yeah there is something to be gained from it. A utopia where policing doesn't "gain" anything doesn't exist my friend. Stop living in a dream world as I was told to do many times throughout this thread and accept it.
But all that aside. This 50 pager has talked everyone in circles eh? What a funny little discussion
Last edited by Aces; 20-11-2015 at 14:20.
The Issue i have with learns (doing rough estates) 20 massacres takes that 15 raw+300% science (1100 magic bpa) to <1 raw and 300% science. Casting ability basically gone, tpa gone, economy gone...20 oor learns take you from 15 raw +300% science (1100 magic bpa) to 15 raw wpa+140% magic science (550bpa). That guy isnt remotly knocked outa the war just severly damaged in science post war.
For me then you arent really trying to disable and win your simply trying to strip the enemy of science when they are at their weakest point and unable to defend themselfs due the power of chaining. Which as i said is fine if thats how they wanted to play, but if you lose, that 50 bpa/day your "collecting" you better be prepared to pay back because you were never really winning just draging out your own loss to take my science. Which again is why waring FS early for us would be questionable due to the science we'd lose win or lose war and the unlikelihood that i'd really want to wave them post war to recoup losses. The POINT is that Uncle Ed was *****ing about being pk'd/bullied by stronger kd in war and my suggestion then learn who/when u want to war someone or how you want to deal with them if you win. Its hardly morally wrong for the winning kd to try to convince a kd they are losing in pk's, learns, or... but if u dont have fun fighting a kd dont war them.
and during those lots of back and forths pre war is where they talked more than just what date would you like to war, i.e. "we'd prefer and instant declare becausae our setup is strong with that" probubly wasn't spelled out for you. They inherently felt you out pre war talked though "issues" you had to seem friendly and gain advantages over you through diplomacy. If u are unsure or unaware of it i'll point back to bart is very smart (well in most things he was stupid enough to dealbreak us) he knows what hes doing when he talks to kds and how to try to manipulate them. Or did you not see his 100% fake war offer to us. It was designed to try to get us into war in a bad position, he'd get an advantage in war (as his setup is designed) then back out of the "well lose at min time" offer and beat us. IF we then got upset and complained/called in for help the other kds they will laugh at us because we were stupid enough to agree to a fake war... no one is going to help someone becuase their enemy didn't comply with a fake war offer.
This is semi true, he actually did less damage overall than u probubly took, however the disrespect was probably on par. But the thing is he dealbroke us and then refused to take punishment instead demanded we give him more resources. As acres, science, peoples prov in general have no value to Spartans the only way to damage and make them apologize is to cost them either a war win or a lot of honor. Now they knew that, we were hitting them and dealing with them and they chose to arrange a war with the sole purpose of avoiding punishment. Why should a war they only got to avoid us hitting them stop us from hitting them?
In contrast sure your war v Ascension gave you a bad taste, they were assholes, but you learned something. You learned "good" kds can pk and pk's hurt alot. That alone however isnt something thats going to get someone pk'ed as even the nicest kds in the game may need to pk to win a war, or make the war end in a reasonable time period. Do they deserve to be GB'ed for being !@#$ to you, maybe? Both Stoners and Strippers in the past 10 ages got GB'ed for being rude and disrespectful. But the standard of when people will waste time in a gb is sometimes easy: dealbreakers who refuse to apologize nor admit they were wrong get GB'ed. While sometimes its hard: how much of an asshole does someone need to be before they deserve a gb? Here let me make a suggestion Ascension was rude to you? Tell them that, say u felt like they were overly mean spirited to you. If they apologize then u'd have it, if they don't start hitting them. U'd be "justified" and hard pressured to find someone who is going to stand up for them if they insulted to so much that you feel like they deserve to be hit.
My gut says if you msg Ascension and say
"You know we wared u guys ealier in the age and while we know pking is part of the game it seemed like u guys actively tried to not just win but destroy our kd. And then when you did win you taunted us, rubbed it in our faces and overall treated us very poorly. Is this how you normally treat kds or did we do somthing to you to deserve the disrespect you've shown us"
They will respond with
"Well your right the pk's may have not been needed but we felt they would drastically reduce the length of the war and make an overall showing that we were winning. Since winning is the goal of the war we felt justified in pking. However it was not our intention to treat you like **** and if u felt that way we'll work on how we celebrate wins in the furture. ( possible addtion) However you guys did say XYZ (or do XYZ) that upset our guys and they also felt disrespected which is why they acted they way they did."
Try doing ^^ i bet you get those kinds of resposnes.
Last edited by Persain; 20-11-2015 at 15:04.
This post literally made me laugh. This game is all rainbows and good guys! Yeah message them that and you'll get a nice little well packaged love letter explaining why they screwed you. Hahahahahahahahahah. The response would actually probably look more like this "sorry buddy that is the game don't like it deal with it noob" but probably with more aggressive words. Thanks for starting my day off with a laugh though. I honestly enjoyed that. Maybe I got you wrong persian. You aren't so bad a guy. Just a big jokester. :-)
Last edited by Aces; 20-11-2015 at 15:10.
Just because you and your kd treat people like **** unless they give u a free win and then say omg u guys so good how do we act like you, doesnt mean most kds will respond that way. Sure there might be a response like you suggest, and then you threaten to hit them, they keep talking **** back....and that goes on for a while and then Eds kd gets the support he needs to GB. My response to Ed was that while he got treated like **** theres other ways to handle it than just a GB. We tried that with your kd Acres, they refused to be reasonable/apologize before we started GBing you.
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