The bottom is hot

[Aces]

White knights? Your rebuttle? By the way didn't I call this and was flamed down saying I was wrong? And side note doesn't separate yourself now from all of this goodwitch. You jumped on the bandwagon. ..little late to be jumping off

[Folle]

Admitting to have made mistakes and dealbreaking... Does this mean Spartans will give Divinity their acres and honour back?

[Judge]

I don't particularly care, just want them to be honest.

How honest?

[beans]

Admitting to have made mistakes and dealbreaking... Does this mean Spartans will give Divinity their acres and honour back?

We dont admit it was a DB since we have suffered BS moves like that and no one called foul then. Although the past problems are not the issue, and im not trying to deflect. Point is although we did **** play, and are not going to **** play like that again, we still don't believe it was a DB.

As for divinity getting acres and honour, IDK. No compromise has been reached and I don't think the parties are even talking any more.

[Korp]

We dont admit it was a DB since we have suffered BS moves like that and no one called foul then. Although the past problems are not the issue, and im not trying to deflect. Point is although we did **** play, and are not going to **** play like that again, we still don't believe it was a DB.

As for divinity getting acres and honour, IDK. No compromise has been reached and I don't think the parties are even talking any more.

So you didnt have a eoa cf and you didnt break the cf? lol, still scummy, always will be scummy ****.

[el-chingatumadre]

Korp,,, the one thing that matters here is that..

Emiriti asked the uto police if they would be retaled attacking spartan.
Police said ok, but as police they cant not gain from it, or they wont get support.
If emiriti keeps land they db the police and uto community. And they should be equally punished as sparta or not worse cause the are under the "badge" doing job.I would like to see a date when land gets destroyed.

Can we trust the big kds in this game to demand such justice and punish emiriti ?

[Crunch]

Korp,,, the one thing that matters here is that..

Emiriti asked the uto police if they would be retaled attacking spartan.
Police said ok, but as police they cant not gain from it, or they wont get support.
If emiriti keeps land they db the police and uto community. And they should be equally punished as sparta or not worse cause the are under the "badge" doing job.I would like to see a date when land gets destroyed.

Can we trust the big kds in this game to demand such justice and punish emiriti ?

the police are corrupt

[Judge]

Korp,,, the one thing that matters here is that..

Emiriti asked the uto police if they would be retaled attacking spartan.
Police said ok, but as police they cant not gain from it, or they wont get support.
If emiriti keeps land they db the police and uto community. And they should be equally punished as sparta or not worse cause the are under the "badge" doing job.I would like to see a date when land gets destroyed.

Can we trust the big kds in this game to demand such justice and punish emiriti ?

First I would like to see a date when spartans agree to terms set by persian. Once that is done then you can see if the land is razed or not.

[Folle]

We dont admit it was a DB since we have suffered BS moves like that and no one called foul then. Although the past problems are not the issue, and im not trying to deflect. Point is although we did **** play, and are not going to **** play like that again, we still don't believe it was a DB.

By not setting things right, why should others respect your CF's in the future?
Next age(s) wont be very fun for you guys when all kingdoms knows they can break any CF with you.
Nobody will police those DB's, since you clearly believe its ok to DB yourself.

10 days to 3 weeks left of the current age. Spartans wont be allowed to win anything, your age is over.
You have a chance to clear the air and start next age with good relations, instead of ruining both this and next age.

It's very hard to find any logic in your lack of willingness to improve your ways.

[jo.t.reid]

.... You have a chance to clear the air and start next age with good relations, instead of ruining both this and next age.

It's very hard to find any logic in your lack of willingness to improve your ways.

Tell that to Divinity.

[TommyB]

Tell that to Divinity.

Lol.. 55 pages and zero progress achieved. :o

[Goodwitch]

Aces I am not separating us from anything. Simply stated that we gained nothing. We stand by what we did. Some kingdoms do things cause they actually care about the game and not charts, crowns etc. We are such a kingdom.
We are also by the way not an ABS kingdom , so this is not about Absalom versus non Absalom as they try to spin it now.
Emeriti has been nothing but fair. They have given Spartans every chance to make things right.
Divinity has been patiently trying to sort this out with Spartans but Heaven/Bart is not willing to even try to find a middle ground and is still trying to spin things.
It's the same story as always, Spartans demanding stuff, wheeling and dealing and playing kingdoms against each other.

[jo.t.reid]

Lol.. 55 pages and zero progress achieved. :o

Only last 20, or so...

[beans]

Nobody will police those DB's, since you clearly believe its ok to DB yourself.

Well no change for us there. No one has ever policed DB's against us or other non allied kds or seemed to care at all.

For any curious, this is the last offer Bart made to emirati and div before talks broke down.

1. We pull out of honor crown race
2. We surrender current war
3. We'll war emeriti afterwards
4. We'll EOA CF + next age EOA CF both emeriti and divinity

That combined with eating the oow hits and pks we suffered, and divinity getting back land and/or honour from emerati if they want to (emerati got more from us than we got from div). Sparta suffers significantly, emerati doesn't benefit from policing, and div gets back what was lost. They didn't like the offer and that's fine. They are in a position to farm us / punish us as much as they like just as we are in a position to ignore demands that we feel are to onerous.

Not that pointing out bad behaviour in others excuses any thing we have done, but bear in mind we are being farmed by a kd that started the awar last age by **** playing another kd so severely that it got the whole server involved. Very next age this kd is razing down another kd and telling us we are **** and will always be **** and will never change our ways? lol. We can and will clean up our act, and from what i can tell we wont have to go far to be playing a much cleaner game than them.

[Mithras]

Why does Bart insist on offering things that no one but him wants?

All we asks for is a change in attitude, no more dealbreaks and that they come to an agreement with Divinity over their dealbreak.