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[Godly]

Palem, please show me what you consider being an insult and I will delete and publicly apologize. I see no insults in my post, but maybe that's just me.

She's referring to me putting your IQ into question by associating:
- intel that we take on our own that is stored in a database to being "free intel" -- as if it's just available without us having to do any in game action
- claiming that we spy on other kingdoms chat logs. I play in the kingdom. I have yet to see someone else's chat log except in instances where someone in their kingdom specifically leaked it to me. If I (a powerful figure in the kingdom) haven't see any chat logs obtained through munkbot, how the hell have you?
- claiming that having a bot to help with mundane tasks such as displaying our intel in a nice formatted way, or sending texts to peoples phones when they are needed is cheating. That's called organization. I suppose our google docs page, skype calls, and mirc in general should be cheating as well.
- repeatedly stating that I won't war you, when in fact I said I would and would seriously welcome the free land donation and EOWCF bonus
- claiming that we're incapable of warring when, in fact, we "ran a train" on the warring tier a few rounds ago, and have completely dominated every top kingdom in wars over the last few rounds. There's a reason that we have only 1 war win this round. After Emeriti quit and had to feed us close to 50% of their land to avoid a war, the rest of the kingdoms conceded the round. We could have easily racked up 5 more war wins this round, but it was a waste of everyone's time.

All of the libel that you slung at me is acceptable behavior, so feel free to continue doing it.

If we're gonna ban people for making **** up we might as well close down the forums.

It's one thing to say stuff like he's saying about how he's led kingdoms upon kingdoms to crowns and shut down the server because Mehul thought his prov was too powerful. That's fine. It's funny. No one gets hurt.

I think putting someone's integrity in question should be met with facts otherwise I fail to see how that isn't an insult or flame.

[Goodwitch]

If we're gonna ban people for making **** up we might as well close down the forums.

truest statement ever

[vlahul82]

Palem isn't there a rule against libel? Because this will now be the third individual in this thread that is accusing me of cheating without proof.

Does Munk play in your kingdom? Answer that.

If yes, that is proof for cheating your pathetic achievement and not a single utopian player can contradict my statement (unless they are your lacheys)

Exploring to 10-15k acres is NOT something to be proud of. Neither feding upon gettos that can't fight back. Neither CF-ing literally all the kingdoms that can pose a threat to your pathetic exploration. Archieving all this NOTHING by CF and spying on other kingdoms...well... it is worse than NOTHING.

So, shut your mouth and spear my ears. I'm fed of all this bull**** you "wannabe godly" throw to feed your ego.

|Everybody knows you are an incapable player, that is protected by 3-5 other kingdoms so he can "explore in peace". Without the kingdom aid and the CF you are NOTHING. And without Munk, of course :).

[Korp]

Does Munk play in your kingdom? Answer that.

If yes, that is proof for cheating and not a single utopian player can contradict my statement (unless they are your lacheys)

That is not enough label someone a cheater. Besides what you mentioned is cheating.

[Loons]

Forrest Gump achieved much greater things in life than most of us in Uto will ever achieve, just saying

[Goodwitch]

Does Munk play in your kingdom? Answer that.

If yes, that is proof for cheating.

lol no, it's not.

When you say things like that you are benching the very people that care enough to improve general player experience. On the contrary , you should be thanking people like Munk , Stinger and lots of other apps/sites etc for sharing their hard work with the community rather than just using it for their own kingdom.

But there is a simple solution for you personally. Don't use Munk and they couldn't spy on you even if they wanted to.

Also, while no one has to like Godly and there are plenty that don't, every one with half a brain has to acknowledge that he has mad game skills. Maybe not as good as he thinks himself :P but he can rock a province better than most any day.

[vlahul82]

For me that is enough :). For many others is also "enough proof". Only you think that is "right".
It's obvious that Munk has no scruples, when I returned he was one of the few players I've remembered and dropped him a salutation. And you know what? He had chatlogs with me back in 2006 and recorded my last donation from 2006.

He has that from 2006! and he is having everything, all chatlogs, all keywords, all chain targets, all war builds. That so you can know in advance...things.
That is C H E A T I N G.

[Godly]

vlahul, do you use IRC? There is a server admin somewhere that also has all of your chat logs, keywords, chain targets, and war builds. It doesn't mean that he uses them, though.

If you want to live in a world where no one has any of your communication, you should move to the woods and **** in a hole.

[vlahul82]

Munk is a fabulous utopian, his work improved the gaming experience a lot. He has my deepest respects.

But that does not change the fact he plays in Cromulent and you uses all his intel/chatlogs.

The quality of a professional like Munk is not the issue here. So, don't try to divagate.

And the fact that you denie Munk playing in Cromulent, is that you fear of admitting. But we do know the truth, right?

I've donated to Munk, the past week two other kingdom mates also donated. That because we respect his work.

[Korp]

For me that is enough :). For many others is also "enough proof". Only you think that is "right".
It's obvious that Munk has no scruples, when I returned he was one of the few players I've remembered and dropped him a salutation. And you know what? He had chatlogs with me back in 2006 and recorded my last donation from 2006.

He has that from 2006! and he is having everything, all chatlogs, all keywords, all chain targets, all war builds. That so you can know in advance...things.
That is C H E A T I N G.

lol, you claim hes a cheater cause he keeps logs? Haha. Still not cheating though if you could prove he did things like that. Unethical at most

[Korp]

Munk is a fabulous utopian, his work improved the gaming experience a lot. He has my deepest respects.

But that does not change the fact he plays in Cromulent and you uses all his intel/chatlogs.

The quality of a professional like Munk is not the issue here. So, don't try to divagate.

And the fact that you denie Munk playing in Cromulent, is that you fear of admitting. But we do know the truth, right?

I've donated to Munk, the past week two other kingdom mates also donated. That because we respect his work.

You respect his work but at the same time you claim hes a dirty cheater that abuses his creation.

[vlahul82]

That is "cheating" his tiny achievement. Which in fact is NO achievement at all. End of age and 20k acres? be ****ing serious:). That is mid age achievement.

It is not only the chatlogs, but the free intel also and many other things. That is cheating, like someone would have read your own kingdom forums and plans.

And again: his fear of admitting that Munk plays in Cromulent, tells more than he speaks. :)) Everybody knows that Munk plays there, it is no secret.

[vlahul82]

You respect his work but at the same time you claim hes a dirty cheater that abuses his creation.

Yes, that is very correct, although i would not call him "dirty" and such. And I also respect him, not only his work.

[Goodwitch]

For me that is enough :). For many others is also "enough proof". Only you think that is "right".
It's obvious that Munk has no scruples, when I returned he was one of the few players I've remembered and dropped him a salutation. And you know what? He had chatlogs with me back in 2006 and recorded my last donation from 2006.

He has that from 2006! and he is having everything, all chatlogs, all keywords, all chain targets, all war builds. That so you can know in advance...things.
That is C H E A T I N G.

So what you are saying is you are sore because he expects you to donate in order to use his system?
I don't play with Godly, I don't even like him. I can't say if he in the past has or has not cheated(and neither can you unless you have proof).
Munk can play in any kingdom he chooses. That is not cheating. Bishop plays or at least used to play. He has far more options as far as cheating goes. Are you calling his kingdom cheaters also?
Having the tools and using them are 2 totally different things. Unless you have proof that Munk uses his data to cheat, you should not be calling him a cheater.
And to be honest seeing that he relies heavily on donations and members using his service to make running it feasable, he probably knows that cheating his members would be suicide to his system.

as stated before, if it bothers you, don't use it.

[Godly]

Why would you need me to tell you that munk plays in CR? His name is on his damn province. All you have to do is look at the kingdom page.. this isn't a secret.

I can't tell you with certainty if munk stores logs, reads them, or jerks off to them because I don't live with him, nor do I get along with him very well -- we're not compatible because he's not a born winner.. I only associate with winners.

But I can tell you with 100% certainty that I have never, ever, seen him share one. And the way our kingdom works, if **** like this goes down, I know about it.