Suicide Squad VS FReakstyle

[lampost]

you are all bringing up past & resolved events, and none of those parties are involved in the current events.. only relevant point i see is the chance to paint fs in a worse light - but instead, it is made clear that we had paid the price when we did something wrong, and currently its the other side paying the price for their wrongdoing against us.. thanks for digging past, and making our point more clear..

I'll be brief. As has been pretty much admitted by pale and others, those events were only resolved in so far as they were a forced resolution. In fact there was zero punishment for fs in each of those events. The bad light and reputation for fs and their allies are completely of their own making. Continue enjoy your freedom to ****play and db as your power allows.

If there is no proof of ss being behind the gb then I understand why you might assume such. But you guys CLAIM there is proof yet you refuse to show it.

[Feint]

U wanna have a shot at crown or even a top 3 placing, join them or u Alternatively, just offered weekly tribute and act when called upon. Surprisingly, CR also become BB pawn. CR turn to crown this age, as approved by BB. Thus they are also obliged to follow the raze. Came to me as a shock, i thgt CR should be strong enough. Well, a crown in an age without being challenged seem too lucrative to forgo. Fully agreed what palem said. Utopia is an interesting game which not just depend on game knowledge and mechanic. It involved a lot on connection with ppl even if u arent playing at the top. U mess if any of the members, alliance come into play. It never a 1 vs 1, even if it is a war.

[protector]

Pale, my question was how fs got punished for organising a gb. How exactly does this post answer that question? Your post just makes it sound more like the deal was 'forced' on ED, that they are in the wrong to dare challange your alliance and that you are somehow apologising for fs's actions. Nobody cares about some silly taunts, thats all a sideshow and a distraction from the issue. Maybe they wanted to get the honour from fs because they instigated the GB?
Your alliance organises a GB on ED and the prime instigator (fs) gets away with it! Why? I'll save you the response this time - because they could.

p.s so pyro who made the hits get punished in the forums and bb who only played an advisory role gave up honour and land? That seems a little unfair to you and protector. Maybe next time fs db's/gbs you can find a ghetto to pay for the land and honour taken? (sarcasm)

It was Pyro that took the honor. ED was asked what they wanted and BB gave ED what they wanted. Partially also since Pyro had gotten a dozen provs razekilled during the awar, call it appreciation or whatever you want.
Considering that's over 4-5 months ago, it was solved and it wasn't an actual GB (double hostile =! GB), I don't quite see the relevance to FS being razed into war by 2 KDs and then us (and others) backing them up by razing the KD they war.
We went with the evidence we had (which made sense) and later this evidence was only reinforced with more concrete evidence. Needless to say, waiting for X days to sort everything out would've only resulted in 10 dead provs on FS side.

None of the people questioning our morals for joining in straight away, questioned Meep & co razing Pyro last age when we started razing Emeriti.

[khronosschoty]

I personally dismiss as invalid any proof of SS organizing a gang bang on FS that cannot or will not be shown.

[citadela01]

I personally dismiss as invalid any proof of SS organizing a gang bang on FS that cannot or will not be shown.

Even if not all info was made public, there is plenty that is.
Including ingame msgs by Ruthless naming SS as organizer of gb and msgs from one of SS memmbers trying to recruit support for GB before it started.

Pretty compelling imo.

Afaik only one peace of info was witheld from public to protect its source.
I didnt see it either, but since it has been deemed legit by persons who are far from FS allies (ie CR) i consider it legit.

[Over]

A noob q:

Recent Yolo vs Birdie war has any relation with this?

[LoRD_SaMPuaN]

A noob q:

Recent Yolo vs Birdie war has any relation with this?

yes, birdie switched back to bb as soon as there noone left to pk on us, and now trying to stir **** between bb & cr by farming out to bb..

[Goodwitch]

Morale of the story everyone should know never to make any deals of any sort with FS. No one should ever war FS. Every hit by FS should be retalled. Diplomacy should be avoided. In cases of bottomfeeding call for help.

btw someone asked me who all was hitting FS and I had no clue so I looked it up.
7 kingdoms hit
even IF(and it wasn't) it had been an organized GB that is pretty compelling especially if you take into account that at least most of them gave their own reason and personal FS grief story.

And I will state right here and now that if FS reaches a province honor crown this age it is plain and simple cheating.

We stopped hits cause we were asked to. We did not want to hinder talks to reach a solution between SS and FS.
Meanwhile razes on SS continue, FS is massacering and whoring honor.
The highest honor kingdom involved in the razing has not been policed as some of the others have.

Do not reward bad behavior again!

[markers]

Even if not all info was made public, there is plenty that is.
Including ingame msgs by Ruthless naming SS as organizer of gb and msgs from one of SS memmbers trying to recruit support for GB before it started.

Pretty compelling imo.

Afaik only one peace of info was witheld from public to protect its source.
I didnt see it either, but since it has been deemed legit by persons who are far from FS allies (ie CR) i consider it legit.

You mean the message that was put out of context by ruthless about me building new kd/alliance? Yep very compelling...not

[lampost]

And I will state right here and now that if FS reaches a province honor crown this age it is plain and simple cheating.

Partially also since Pyro had gotten a dozen provs razekilled during the awar, call it appreciation or whatever you want.

FS also had some killed during the awar.

[khronosschoty]

Even if not all info was made public, there is plenty that is.
Including ingame msgs by Ruthless naming SS as organizer of gb and msgs from one of SS memmbers trying to recruit support for GB before it started.

Pretty compelling imo.

Afaik only one peace of info was witheld from public to protect its source.
I didnt see it either, but since it has been deemed legit by persons who are far from FS allies (ie CR) i consider it legit.

Mind gathering up these "proofs" for all of us to see in one place; 2 - 3 of them would be good enough -- that is if its too much trouble to gather them all.

[texn]

Morale of the story everyone should know never to make any deals of any sort with FS. No one should ever war FS. Every hit by FS should be retalled. Diplomacy should be avoided. In cases of bottomfeeding call for help.

btw someone asked me who all was hitting FS and I had no clue so I looked it up.
7 kingdoms hit
even IF(and it wasn't) it had been an organized GB that is pretty compelling especially if you take into account that at least most of them gave their own reason and personal FS grief story.

And I will state right here and now that if FS reaches a province honor crown this age it is plain and simple cheating.

We stopped hits cause we were asked to. We did not want to hinder talks to reach a solution between SS and FS.
Meanwhile razes on SS continue, FS is massacering and whoring honor.
The highest honor kingdom involved in the razing has not been policed as some of the others have.

Do not reward bad behavior again!

Well, continue with you're anti FS propaganda. Atleast we and some others know that we arent that bad :)
And cheating? why would we ever cheat? We are to pro for that ****.

GG. and happy new year. Let's cheer for an epic 2016, the year of the freeaks. ;)

[Meep]

It was Pyro that took the honor. ED was asked what they wanted and BB gave ED what they wanted. Partially also since Pyro had gotten a dozen provs razekilled during the awar, call it appreciation or whatever you want.
Considering that's over 4-5 months ago, it was solved and it wasn't an actual GB (double hostile =! GB), I don't quite see the relevance to FS being razed into war by 2 KDs and then us (and others) backing them up by razing the KD they war.
We went with the evidence we had (which made sense) and later this evidence was only reinforced with more concrete evidence. Needless to say, waiting for X days to sort everything out would've only resulted in 10 dead provs on FS side.

None of the people questioning our morals for joining in straight away, questioned Meep & co razing Pyro last age when we started razing Emeriti.

I think lots of people questioned our morals just like lots of people questioned your morals for razing emeriti in the first place.

Trying to spin a situation to justify your own actions and condemn the actions of those opposing you is pretty standard practice.

[Sheister]

and in the end, the bigger KD with more political connections wins..... just like always.

Ergo, Might makes right, just like in every other online game.

[lampost]

and in the end, the bigger KD with more political connections wins..... just like always.

Ergo, Might makes right, just like in every other online game.

And I was just going to quote you! You have a clear and straight philosophy on the game. At least people know where they stand.

Well, continue with you're anti FS propaganda. Atleast we and some others know that we arent that bad :)
And cheating? why would we ever cheat? We are to pro for that ****.

GG. and happy new year. Let's cheer for an epic 2016, the year of the freeaks. ;)

I'm sure there are others in your kd who agree with Sheister/are not happy with leadership.