Panda vs bb

[Shai]

Oh guise, BoH = octobrev obviously.

I knew it!

[Palem]

Don't insult users.

[blizz]

#crown4anri

[markers]

Looks like bb will be in my range after war, I'll pour some salt on their wounds :)

[noobium]

#AnyoneButCR

[goodz]

BB is land dropping to war free.

[protector]

Protector, is it true that you told me that you would give us all LDs this age to help us crown?

It were my intentions to give you guys our LDs since we just planned on warring. And? Are you now saying you don't want landdrops?

Do you understand where i come from and why i believe this game should be played in a clean and competitive way?

I've played competitive long enough, please do not try and lecture me about it lol. The competitive part is long gone. You want a clean age? Then make all the landdropping stop and take it by force

You are the very definition of what is bad in this game. You even joke about how you would abuse ghettos to get free wars this age, how you would gain ww bonus from them if only Bishop had not reverted the max meter.

You either misread or misinterpret. What I spoke off, was the change where a max meter war wouldn't give a WW bonus anymore. Which is both good and bad. Pretty highly abusable which is also why it was reverted.

You make farm war every age, at least once or twice. You block targets, you tax out important acres to enemies or give acres to friends, you whine and complain if you do not get cfs in a non compete kind of way, you steal targets, you rank your KD in t3 or better even if you are not competing as you say. Yet you always try so hard. What else, there is countless of people on the server knowing how much you cheat and cheated in this game. You abuse warring tiers every age by raze campaigns, you are always around in diplomacy acting like some kind of insurance for other kds even if you do not care and are not competing. I warned you and others pre this age that we in Pandas would not give non compete deals to any KDs. I told every top leader i cared about that this will not fly this age, it needs to change, KDs not competing should not be able to pump a full age and gain t3 rank or even bank crown and than sit around and control warring tiers and act high and mighty.

Have you not NW dropped to declare cj's kingdom? How is what we did any different? If you want to talk others down, make sure you haven't done exactly the same.
The issue isn't me or our kingdom, the issue is game mechanics. Instead of ranting at me, go read my suggestion to alter how war declare works. Easiest fix is land based declaring. You can't adjust Land without removing it temporarily like NW.

And stealing or blocking targets? WTF are you smoking? You don't get to decide who I can or can't hit. There is no dibs.

Either way, I can keep repeating the same stuff over and over again, you're too stubborn to read

Other top kds with some style knows better and goes into warring tiers to slack and have fun, you can still make some good wars and not take it so serious. You are doing the exact opposite, you are hardly the only one or the first one. But it further decays this game. If i can pick from warring/waving you instead of make a deal that helps us crown you know i will go the competitive route because A) it is more fun B) By far more interesting C) by far the cleanest way to play.

Not long ago you said we should stop warring ghetto's, now you want us to go back to warring ghetto's? Make up your mind dude. Either way, neither you nor someone else will tell us how and where to play. We decide that on our own.
I'm only keeping the KD together purely for the fun atmosphere on WA and stuff, the rest is not so relevant. If I quit, our KD probably ceases to exist. You want or don't want more decay of this game?

You can talk how much you want about how bad i am at diplomacy, have it ever just once struck you that i might not ****ing care because i have a spine in my back.

Sure you care. Are you suggesting that I have no spine? Then why did I say no to your cf4acres wish? I'm fighting you, am I not?
Being good or bad at diplomacy has ****all to do with having a spine.

There are no crown worth playing for if you going to crown in a dirty or lame kind of way. The only crown that ever would matter is a crown that is won in a competitive way and that is the only way i have ever tried to reach that position. Thru being aggressive, treat all the same, not play dirty and not attempt to farm every free acre there is on the server. We try to get the acres from the competition, you set your KD on rank2 after i told you what i feel about all of this pre this age even started, you than come and ask me for deals and tell me BS like i want you guys to win this age. Well, guess what, you choose the wrong guy to tell this, maybe you should donate to someone else, because i do not care, i much rather wave you and i do not care about the consequence, the sooner ppl learn what a douchebag you are the better it is.

Why is it bull**** that I'd rather see you win than CR? Quite frankly I don't give a rats ass about you personally, but I appreciate a good bunch of people in Panda. People who I get a long with fine.
We grew because you made it clear you wanted to fight and we just wanted to war. When we spoke about the intra razes and CFing you/cr/div/theu, there was a suggestion that the other party would get to choose the timeline between YR3 and YR5. Then a day later when you where supposed to give your answer, you got mad because you wanted YR2 all of a sudden. I'd rather try to fight you closer in size than with a huge gap. Truth is I just hoped for a straight forward fight with no nonsense, but the only thing you know is bull****.

You should ask yourself what CR would feel about you giving us best deals for LD all age?
You know damn well you would only do this to piss them off, but point of a matter is that we want a fair playing ground, i think they do too. I think the other kds that is competing such as Divinity and maybe Greens feel the very same way about it. You should rethink the way you want to play this game. I cant stop you from being a dick, but i can at least tell you straight up that i had enough with all that BS that i see every age from what used to be a respected KD not so many ages ago.

Then why are you (you being leaders in Panda) complaining about yet another kingdom CR makes a farmdeal for 5k acres with? The hypocrisy...
And quite frankly I don't care what CR would feel about giving us giving someone else a better deal on landdrops. Isn't that EXACTLY what they are making their CF deals with other kingdoms? To get the same or more land as other competing kingdoms (you) would take?

What i brought to you this age might be the most competitive conflict you have had in a few ages, you got so used of being in OP position and farming ghettos that you might have lost your mind in the process.

Not so much. Just last age we fought against Emeriti, remember? That was pretty tense.
This is however also a good fight, kudo's to hesus & co.

ps. write shorter posts, this is the last essay I'll reply to!

yeah, protector is a major douche. #fact

#bitter

[protector]

Looks like bb will be in my range after war, I'll pour some salt on their wounds :)

What size are you? Maybe we can do it!

[markers]

What size are you? Maybe we can do it!

Senpai noticed me! ;)

Between 30-45k acres

[tetley]

well that escalated quickly

[Zauper]

Who did we make a farm deal for 5k acres with?

I'm curious to your supposed source since this is the second time I've heard that, but there's only one kd we've gained more than 2.4k from. Are you referring to your future donation, perhaps? 5k does seem a bit low for it though.

We also generally don't make deals that kds can't give other kds land, or as much land. Those are both interesting claims, though.

I have enjoyed the vilification campaign you and nesta have been on this age, quite amusing. Of course, while neither of you are "playing" but are getting in the way of those that are, and mostly just threaten to farm out if you don't get your way.

[Leonidas]

We also generally don't make deals that kds can't give other kds land, or as much land. Those are both interesting claims, though.

Last age before BB fought Emeriti they had posted that Emeriti wanted more acres (4k?) but BB replied that they would then have to top up their LD to CR, to match that (BB had offered the same amount as given to CR which I believe was 2k?)

If the deals remains the same it sounds like what Protector said (CR wants at least as much land as LDed to other kingdoms), which also does not contradict what you said (CR doesn't prevent other kingdoms from LDing, at least to an equivalent amount of land)

[JusticeLeague]

BB boo...so dirty.....with your buddy Nesta...

[Zauper]

Last age before BB fought Emeriti they had posted that Emeriti wanted more acres (4k?) but BB replied that they would then have to top up their LD to CR, to match that (BB had offered the same amount as given to CR which I believe was 2k?)

If the deals remains the same it sounds like what Protector said (CR wants at least as much land as LDed to other kingdoms), which also does not contradict what you said (CR doesn't prevent other kingdoms from LDing, at least to an equivalent amount of land)

You mean the deal that BB made with all competitors and came to us with? That doesn't sound like us forcing deals on people (though it wasn't particularly appropriate and we probably should have just farmed them, but didn't want to deal with them farming out to our competition if we did)

The issue was when they said they weren't competing, I believed them and expected them to behave like other top kds taking an age off - warring, not getting involved in the top.

[Aranfein]

Protector: And stealing or blocking targets? WTF are you smoking? You don't get to decide who I can or can't hit. There is no dibs.

Lol comedy at its finest, you told me and countless others who we could or couldn't hit.. or we would feel the wrath, pathetic.