Canadian Rebellion VS Pandas

[Godly]

This is what I have to deal with:

[15:30] <&munkbot> NEW KDNEWS: Haters gonna HATE (X:XX) invaded Raucous Rainbow (X:XX) and captured 1288 acres of land. [X] ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[15:31] <&munkbot> <jwuzi> err
[15:31] <&munkbot> <jwuzi> we can bush?
[15:31] <&munkbot> <jwuzi> or wait
[15:31] <&munkbot> <meep> rekt
[15:31] <&munkbot> <meep> rekt
[15:31] <&munkbot> <jwuzi> trol
[15:31] <&munkbot> <meep> rektg
[15:31] <&munkbot> <jwuzi> fuk
[15:31] <@eragon> such troll
[15:31] <&munkbot> <jwuzi> munk
[15:31] <&munk> REEEEKT
[15:31] <@eragon> got him good
[15:31] <@eragon> well played
[15:31] <&Dirty> haha
[15:31] <&munkbot> <godly> dont ****ing troll
[15:31] <&munkbot> <godly> EVER
[15:31] <&munkbot> <crazy_pete> Lol
[15:31] <&munkbot> <meep> GOTTEM
[15:31] <&munkbot> <zauper> lol
[15:32] <&munkbot> <godly> who started the troll?
[15:32] <&munk> impossible to tell
[15:33] <&munkbot> <snirpsner> Mink
[15:33] <&munkbot> <snirpsner> Obv
[15:34] <&munkbot> <godly> i told you guys 0 tolerance for trolling
[15:34] <@Benjamin> not what godly says!
[15:34] <&munkbot> <meep> what does godly sa?
[15:34] <@Benjamin> in the forums
[15:35] <&munkbot> <godly> whoever did hte troll will pay
[15:35] <&munkbot> <godly> you dont need to be messing wtih me right now
[15:36] <&munk> well
[15:36] <&munk> i dont read orders...
[15:36] <&munk> need to memo me
[15:37] <@eragon> that was in game msg
[15:37] <&munkbot> <godly> ARE YOU ADMITTING YOU DID IT?
[15:37] <&munk> did what?
[15:37] <&munk> not read your msg?
[15:38] <&munk> godly triggered
[15:38] <@eragon> better stop the trolling
[15:38] <@eragon> whoever's doing it
[15:38] <&munk> so he's throwing a fit
[15:38] <&munkbot> <godly> YO
[15:38] <@vir> lets just remove that troll function
[15:38] <&munkbot> <godly> I WILL SERIOUSLY END ALL OF THIS

8 mins later:

[15:46] <&munkbot> NEW KDNEWS: CR are cowards (Div) has broken their ceasefire agreement with us!
[15:46] <&munkbot> NEW KDNEWS: A Gold Dragon from CR are cowards (Div) has begun ravaging our lands!
[15:46] <&munkbot> NEW KDNEWS: Jedi Master Yoda (Div) invaded Raucous Rainbow (X:XX) and captured 1390 acres of land. [X] ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[15:46] <&munkbot> <godly> WTF IS THAT
[15:47] <&munkbot> <godly> hey zauper can you controlt hsi ****
[15:47] <&munkbot> <godly> im not ****ing playing with munk if he keeps doing that ****
[15:47] <&munkbot> <godly> i'll set to VM or whatever

[Pillz]

I will step up to replace goldy. No problems playing with danes

[Shai]

So far Munks trolling is the most entertaining part of this war.

Looks like Goldy is just one ms away from VM mode now?

edit: I know first hand the pain and suffering of playing with danes



so what is the troop count and gc situation right now?

[Korp]

edit: I know first hand the pain and suffering of playing with danes

But your danes far better than mink though.

[Cappodocians]

Look, this is easy to explain.

Offhand, Pandas has gained 60k acres this age from attacks. Of those attacks, ~30k were 'tax' deals that required ano. Another 20-25k were in hostile vs fairly low honor kds (early age, war vs BB, 2nd war vs Div). Their setup isn't really designed to drag wars and funnel honor to a small number of provs in the same way that most honor kds are, so it's hard for them to gain tons of honor in a quick war -- and they haven't fought anyone with more than like 45k honor. They've gained ~25-30k acres through WW bonus.

CR has gained ~85k acres from attacks. Of those, ~25k were 'tax' deals that required ano. We've functionally hit for double the land they have without ano, with the revised gains that means significant honor.

The only surprising thing here is that they've gained more tax acres than we have.

Zauper,

For your information we warred BB and Div who both had more than 45 k honor. Where you getting your numbers ?


Now, talking about taxes, should we mention the few provs kd you totally farmed this age ? Oh, that was without ano ! How much you got before you made them all quit ? 15 k acres ? more ?
Its a shame how you talk about my kd and taxes when we actually warred 4 very good kds this age, it started with The U, BB, and twice Div. We gained most our acres in hostile/wars, in a very respectful way, not like you.
We did some ano LDs ? Yes and we did it AFTER you guys did. I mean, I never asked Spartans or Greens acres4cf, they had a free CF. But after you guys taxed them we had no choice but to take the same amount of land or we wouldn't even be in a position to fight you right now.

#stopcomplaining #stoptaxing

[protector]

There it is, the old reliable cop out "Hurr durr, we weren't even competing guyz"

Strange for a KD to grow pump and fight whoring KDs while not competing.

Somehow I feel like your tone would be very different had you actually beat pandas and ended up in a favorable position.

See? Too hard for nubs to swallow the truth. Looking at our setup alone should be clear enough.

We just wanted to fight some wars. The kingdoms we asked/waved prior to fighting Panda didn't want to war. The gap between us/the rest was too big after the Panda fight so we just didn't bother growing for another fight. In the event we would have won vs Panda, we would have just taken another fight and go from there.

[protector]

Munk has this "troll" feature that prints fake hits from kdnews in channel.

Godly almost strangled Munk when there was a fake hit on one of our cows.

[06:47] <Godly> pls dont give me a heart attack agian mmk?
[06:48] <Godly> nevermind i thought it was you that failed 15 ops on me

[Zauper]

Zauper,

For your information we warred BB and Div who both had more than 45 k honor. Where you getting your numbers ?

That's an estimate, I don't track honor numbers. The second war with div, iirc, they were out of the t50 in honor, or very bottom, which is ~45k. BB was far behind on honor because of the intra's.

Now, talking about taxes, should we mention the few provs kd you totally farmed this age ? Oh, that was without ano ! How much you got before you made them all quit ? 15 k acres ? more ?

We have gained a lot of land through OOW conflict. As far as I can recall, we didn't make anyone quit, only reset so we would stop taking their land, after they never engaged in diplo. We gained less from the kingdom you're crying about then you did from probably any of your conflicts, and we were more drafted for it than you've been.

No one stopped anyone else from hitting that kingdom -- div hit in multiple times. The reality is that the offense required is what restrained you, div, or BB from hitting as well. No one else was willing to train 5-600k+ offense on their core to break the bigger provs. No, I don't consider this 'taxing'.

If we tax them, people complain and now have decided to impose 'equal taxes' or whatever. So isn't it in our best interest to play them harder and just take everything? It seems like it is. Certainly in the cases where we didn't do that, the kingdoms have tended to farm more land to you or div (or both). You don't get to complain about us being reasonable in the way we take land, and us being aggressive about it at the same time -- are you trying to turn the whoring tier into the same thing as the warring tier where the entirety of it is about convincing weaker kds to war you? That seems undesirable.

Anri and I discussed the situation with Div, and he initially felt that you guys could keep pace with us if we warred them and you whored instead. How, exactly, do you think he planned to do that? It probably involved attacking someone. It may have been without their permission (you bullies!) or it may have been with their permission (omg the taxman!)

Its a shame how you talk about my kd and taxes when we actually warred 4 very good kds this age, it started with The U, BB, and twice Div. We gained most our acres in hostile/wars, in a very respectful way, not like you.

I'm not sure what this means. Does it mean that you're blaming us for not convincing weaker kingdoms to war us in lieu of warring you? Is it our fault we didn't enforce our deal with div before your 2nd war instead of letting you war eachother the way you wanted? Does that make us the 'bad guys' for deciding to stay with you instead of letting you farm past us? I'm pretty sure it would have created more drama for us to follow our deal and begin hostile with div at ~sametime your notice expired. Actually, due to a typo, we had agreed that our hostile would have begun prior to your notice expiring (technically, our deal expired without notice on jan1).

Should we have not extended you after your war with BB? That would have been in our best interest. But again, we decided to do the nice thing and give you a free extension when we didn't have to. Very disrespectful of us, for sure. Is it "respectful" of you to force Div to war you when they would rather have warred neither of us? Or is that ok because it's war, and not taking land OOW?

We did some ano LDs ? Yes and we did it AFTER you guys did. I mean, I never asked Spartans or Greens acres4cf, they had a free CF. But after you guys taxed them we had no choice but to take the same amount of land or we wouldn't even be in a position to fight you right now.

#stopcomplaining #stoptaxing

Well, let's see.
Spartans - sure.
Warlord beaches - sure.
Green - we took 3.8k via tax. You took 7k via tax. Yep, you took the 'same amount'. (I think that perhaps you mean the same amount as Div, who they taxed to after warring)
Speaking of Div, there's div too.
Then there's confessions, or does that not count because it was just a land drop? Did you have to do that as well, or was it because we had waved them a week prior to the first time you dropped them?
Battleships? Or is that our fault for hitting them for 59 acres 3 weeks prior?
Zombiewood? Or is that our fault for hitting them for 137 acres 4 weeks prior?

Claiming that it's 'all our fault' is ridiculous. Claiming that we're 'complaining' is equally ridiculous. All I did was explain why you don't have more honor than us.

[Anri]

Wave or tax, who cares. We know that no one stands a chance and end result is often greater vs one who refuse to get taxed.
I think the problem Cappo got with the 4 man KD that farmed out 12k is that they explored a bit while getting hit?

We had no possible way to train up like CR did in the time CR did because after 3 quick wars we needed some kind of place to pump our KD.
From the outside it looked bad watching how hit after hit was made by a few provs while this 4 man KD did not respond back at all to ingame mail.
There was never an answer to why they explored while getting hit, nor to why they did not retal and so forth. Who played the 4 provs farming out, do you know, what did they say to you?

[Cappodocians]

I won't argue Zaup, I know Pandas and our philosophy and we are playing to enjoy and to have fun.

OOP, we waved the nb 1 kd on the server for war, this is how we play, the aggressive way. We don't call ourselves the Taxmen or we don't bully/pressure smaller kds for land. I wonder how many kds half your size or way smaller you waved this age ? Must be ultra fun to play in CR !

[StratOcastle]

I guess guys can get upset. Getting big is the point, but obviously I respect Pandas because that's how I'd prefer doing it. With Pandas war prowess, it's not just CRs job to be the biggest but to avoid being on even ground with y'all.

Avians can do some amazing things if they're used to full capacity. Keep having fun.

[era]

I won't argue Zaup, I know Pandas and our philosophy and we are playing to enjoy and to have fun.

OOP, we waved the nb 1 kd on the server for war, this is how we play, the aggressive way. We don't call ourselves the Taxmen or we don't bully/pressure smaller kds for land. I wonder how many kds half your size or way smaller you waved this age ? Must be ultra fun to play in CR !

uMadbro?

[Band of Horses]

I won't argue Zaup, I know Pandas and our philosophy and we are playing to enjoy and to have fun.

OOP, we waved the nb 1 kd on the server for war, this is how we play, the aggressive way. We don't call ourselves the Taxmen or we don't bully/pressure smaller kds for land. I wonder how many kds half your size or way smaller you waved this age ? Must be ultra fun to play in CR !

You should have a talk with your former kd mate Vir about him being a bully.

[Korp]

Why is Cappodocians so eager to start drama with CR?

[Band of Horses]

Why is Cappodocians so eager to start drama with CR?

Beta wolf syndrome. He wants the view to change.