Canadian Rebellion VS Pandas

[jwuzi]

BoH you haven't asked me for a stream link :( </3

[Folle]

Godly you either didnt read my post proper or you are uber defensive..

I said:
If Folle retaliated a hit on himself and then went to war and that retal got retaliated by Octo into the war, i would be seriously pissed off too, why would he not be allowed to retal? and why would it be okay to hit into war just because he retaliated a hit on him?

- Octo hits Folle
- Folle Retals
- Folle goes to war
- Octo Retals the Retal into war
- Godly says thats okay, because he ran into war?

Thats the scenerio thats posted here and if thats true, why would it be okay to hit into war for a hit? from next age "if" im back, ill hit into all CR's war's and claim i was hit during the age (that scenerio is likely) so are you saying, im in my right to hit into war, if thats what happens?

The hit into war should have been given acres back and apologised.

If im wrong in the scenerio plz tell me, but thats what is said here.

I did not retal pre-war.

Godly trying to justify hitting into my war by making up spear lies.

Blizz hits me 1-2 weeks earlier, I bush it. Octo hits me pre-war, with anon. I cannot bush nor can I clear break him without suiciding (faery all elite). Octo hits me in war, I continue fighting the war. Octo hits me oow, I retal. More hits, razekilled.

I would not hold a grudge for 4 ages if it wasnt called for ;)

[Shai]

So Blizz hit, you ambush?
2 weeks later Octo hit and you dont retal him and go to war. Once in war you attack the other kd sending out elites, then Octo hit you again cause you now have elites out?
You come OOW, Octo hits you again and you retal, then CR raze kills you?

That is a pretty big difference to what Godly claims. The big question here is if you hit them right before declaring the ghetto?

The only scenario in where Expendables would be right to hit you into war would be if you hit Octo unprovoked, then declared the ghetto and he retalled into the war.

If Octo hit you, you retal, you then get a button that you press then they hit into war; then Expendables were in the wrong.
If Octo hit you, you didnt retal, then he hit you again into war; then Expendables were in the wrong.

[Bart of Sparta]

So Blizz hit, you ambush?

Lesson of the day: Everything in uto starts with Blizz, ends with Octo.

[Shai]

On a side note: Boo in CR is dropping like a Dane in a tequila race. Seems like Pandas have decided to drop those uber fat killers now. If they drop one per wave there will be a big acre shift to Pandas in the coming 24h. Interesting to see what happens after that ^^

[Godly]

I've found more logs but it seems that no matter how many logs I post, Folle and Pillz will say that they're lies. I reached out the the utonet admin to see if he could verify the validity of the logs given a date, time and channel but he declined. Do you honestly believe that I would have a conversation with a utonet admin if I wasn't 100% certain? He is more than welcome to come here and verify that I at least asked him. I could post the entire channel log on a fileshare site and they would claim that I went through and hand inserted some lines. I could see if munk stored past round SNs somewhere on his database, but he would claim that munk is aiding my lie. I could ask Bishop to see if he could provide a SN of past rounds if they store that stuff somewhere, but he hasn't even taken an interest in removing the multis for going on 48 hrs now. Do you honestly believe that I would be willing to let Bishop fact check me? Bishop would get the biggest boner embarrassing me in public. I am the one providing evidence or hoping that evidence comes forward because I know that I am right. Has Folle provided anything?

I'm fairly certain that the majority of utopia believes that I'm not the kind of person to doctor logs as I value my reputation way more than some razes, and I know that even if there was a way that I had 100% proof that he still would be using multis to raze us because that's the kind of person he is.

There are people that played in Expendables that I've had a falling out with and would quickly jump at the thought of disproving/embarrassing me in public. All they have to do is open up the channel log, do a find on one of the lines I posted and show everyone here that it's a lie. At this point it's more of the annoyance of the fact that there is an individual calling me a liar. I am many things, but a liar I am not.

I will reiterate once again, those logs are 100% undoctored and valid, except for the removal of locations. He hit us and then went to war. I think that's all that I will comment on the situation. You guys can make your own decision. The kid doesn't even remember how many rounds ago it was and you expect him to remember exact details like him doing a bush, getting anon hit, and what not? I don't even remember that stuff. I've actually seen a few parts of my story being incorrect upon reviewing the logs. It wasn't even octobrev that hit him, and I was the one who ordered the hit. Do you guys honestly believe that I am the type of person to order a hit unprovoked into someone's war? Anyone that has played with me or followed me throughout my career knows that that's not how I roll.

I'm not even going to call Folle a liar anymore. I will just say that he has forgotten what happened. It's natural -- it was 10 months ago -- Tue May 26, 2015. Folle, maybe if you look through your own personal logs on that date, you'll see something similar to what I've documented.

Good day.

[Anri]

When you see 20+ people online in both kds after 188h of war and extensive prep/hostile prior to this you know that war is very hardcore. Respect!

[Anri]

On a side note: Boo in CR is dropping like a Dane in a tequila race. Seems like Pandas have decided to drop those uber fat killers now. If they drop one per wave there will be a big acre shift to Pandas in the coming 24h. Interesting to see what happens after that ^^

You missed Tweetheart going down prior to Boo?
He got quadded from 16k acre by our faerys :)

[Band of Horses]

BoH you haven't asked me for a stream link :( </3

I'll show up in my bathrobe like:

I did not retal pre-war.

Godly trying to justify hitting into my war by making up spear lies.

Blizz hits me 1-2 weeks earlier, I bush it. Octo hits me pre-war, with anon. I cannot bush nor can I clear break him without suiciding (faery all elite). Octo hits me in war, I continue fighting the war. Octo hits me oow, I retal. More hits, razekilled.

I would not hold a grudge for 4 ages if it wasnt called for ;)

I've found more logs but it seems that no matter how many logs I post, Folle and Pillz will say that they're lies. I reached out the the utonet admin to see if he could verify the validity of the logs given a date, time and channel but he declined. I could post the entire channel log on a fileshare site and they would claim that I went through and hand inserted some lines.

I'm fairly certain that the majority of utopia believes that I'm not the kind of person to doctor logs as I value my reputation way more than some razes, and I know that even if there was a way that I had 100% proof that he still would be using multis to raze us because that's the kind of garbage he is.

There are people that played in Expendables that I've had a falling out with and would quickly jump at the thought of disproving/embarrassing me in public. At this point it's more of the annoyance of the fact that there is an individual calling me a liar.

I will reiterate once again, those logs are 100% undoctored and valid, except for the removal of locations. He hit us and then went to war. I think that's all that I will comment on the situation. You guys can make your own decision. The kid doesn't even remember how many rounds ago it was and you expect him to remember exact details like him doing a bush, getting anon hit, and what not? I don't even remember that stuff. I've actually seen a few parts of my story being incorrect upon reviewing the logs. It wasn't even octobrev that hit him, and I was the one who ordered the hit. Do you guys honestly believe that I am the type of person to order a hit unprovoked into someone's war? Anyone that has played with me or followed me throughout my career knows that that's not how I roll.

Good day.

Can confirm this was 2 rounds ago. If this was a debate Folle would be crucified for his lack of credibility, and small hands.

[SnirpsneR]

When you see 20+ people online in both kds after 188h of war and extensive prep/hostile prior to this you know that war is very hardcore. Respect!

no one told me we had war :((

[Folle]

Lets all post logs that by no chance can be fake...

I have never said you attacked me, nor have I said you ordered it.

Octobrev, under your leadership, attacked me. He did so 100% by himself, and even people in your kingdom told him it was a bad idea.

Everybody who knows Octo knows this is his way of playing. He loves hitting into wars and prolly have done intire ages of doing nothing but that. He did it an age or two earlier when I played with him in Gergoth's kd, along with Korp and bunch of other slackers as well.

You, being his monarch, refused giving the acres back. You however did offer me a cf for more free hits, more than the two you already got pre-war and into war. You ordered me razekilled.

Since you crave some logs;

1[21:56] <Folle> **** off with his lame made up bull**** story
[21:56] <Blizz> dude
[21:56] <Blizz> i am not making that **** up
[21:56] <Blizz> :/
01[21:56] <Folle> neither am I
01[21:56] <Folle> I havent done a single op to him
01[21:56] <Folle> nor hit him
01[21:56] <Folle> how the **** is that 1 vs 1?
01[21:56] <Folle> thats some bull**** story
[21:58] <Blizz> i actually have to agree with u
[21:58] <Blizz> rofl
[21:58] <Blizz> im asking if the actual prov
[21:58] <Blizz> will talk to you himself
[21:59] <Blizz> then u wont hate me
[21:59] <Blizz> for something a guy in my kd did
[21:59] <Blizz> (not a leader)
01[21:59] <Folle> Im not hating you nor can I
01[21:59] <Folle> Im rational
[21:59] <Blizz> thank you
[21:59] <Blizz> :)
[21:59] <Blizz> i emant what i said
[21:59] <Blizz> when if i knew it was u
[21:59] <Blizz> wouldnt ahve hit
[21:59] <Blizz> like week ago
[21:59] <Blizz> ive stayed out since
[21:59] <Blizz> :D
[22:00] <Blizz> i dont think hes gonna stop btw
01[22:00] <Folle> no need to talk with anybody, I want my acres back or Im gonna go public and make sure all knows how you guys gain acres, gain unfair adv vs other top kds, and clearly cant be trusted not to hit into their wars either.
01[22:00] <Folle> im not sure that is worth 200 acres for your kd :)
[22:00] <Blizz> before you do that
[22:01] <Blizz> im just gonna give you some advice
[22:01] <Blizz> you are the largest prov
[22:01] <Blizz> that we arent cf'd with
[22:01] <Blizz> or friends with
[22:01] <Blizz> next closest prov
[22:01] <Blizz> is like 1500a
[22:01] <Blizz> so you do what u gotta do
01[22:01] <Folle> doesnt matter
01[22:01] <Folle> you dont hit into wars
[22:01] <Blizz> i just think ull come across as whiney
[22:01] <Blizz> i agree
1[22:01] <Folle> when I come oow ill have offense
[22:01] <Blizz> i dont agree with hitting into wars
01[22:01] <Folle> top gain retals
01[22:01] <Folle> thats was my plan
[22:01] <Blizz> i know
[22:01] <Blizz> thats why hes hitting u now
[22:01] <Blizz> that explore
[22:01] <Blizz> if u didnt explore
01[22:02] <Folle> he could just stop hitting
[22:02] <Blizz> probably have just stopped hitting
[22:02] <Blizz> but now hes doing this
[22:02] <Blizz> "to stop you from retalling later"
01[22:02] <Folle> I msg'ed both your monarch and stew ingame, if they dont reply Im going public
01[22:02] <Folle> giving your the chance to fix this now
01[22:02] <Folle> you*
[22:02] <Blizz> actually
[22:02] <Blizz> i just heard something nice
[22:03] <Blizz> [16:02] <&xxxx> we're not giving back the acres because we dont respond to threats, but he's welcome to an eoa cf if he wants
[22:03] <Blizz> ^thats about as good as this is gonna get
[22:03] <Blizz> my honest opinion
01[22:03] <Folle> im going public then
[22:03] <Blizz> this kd is full troll
01[22:03] <Folle> enjoy ****storm from other kds
[22:03] <Blizz> ok
[22:03] <Blizz> :(
[22:06] <Blizz> link me the forum post when ur done
[22:06] <Blizz> id like to read lol
Session Close: Thu Jun 04 22:16:23 2015

[Folle]

@Blizz

Read this, it went public :D

Also sorry blizz for posting this without your permission :(

[Korp]

01[21:59] <Folle> Im rational
01[22:00] <Folle> no need to talk with anybody, I want my acres back or Im gonna go public and make sure all knows how you guys gain acres, gain unfair adv vs other top kds, and clearly cant be trusted not to hit into their wars either.

i lolled,

[Band of Horses]

@Blizz

Read this, it went public :D

Also sorry blizz for posting this without your permission :(

Mr. No credibility,

Did this hit in any way cost your kd the chance to win the war you entered?

Accusations say you fed your kd to the wolves declaring without letting them know. So you're not upset about it costing you the war you're upset that your dodge didnt work? You're lucky Godly isn't coss.

So you plead to their sense of honor and respect for war because it suited you, and now you dishonor and disrespect the game by using multies? Insanity.

[Pillz]

Mr. No credibility,

Did this hit in any way cost your kd the chance to win the war you entered?

Accusations say you fed your kd to the wolves declaring without letting them know. So you're not upset about it costing you the war you're upset that your dodge didnt work? You're lucky Godly isn't coss.

So you plead to their sense of honor and respect for war because it suited you, and now you dishonor and disrespect the game by using multies? Insanity.

What kind fo backwards retard logic is this? Why should the effect on Folle's kingdom factor in at all? Folle cared about his province, and Godly ****ed it up. Godly cares about his kingdom, Folle is going to **** it up. 'Dishonor and disrespect the game'? Multies don't dishonour or disrespect it anymore than current norms of game play such as 96h notice CFs, taxing war KDs, and organizing landdrops for ghettos.

Maybe if Godly & co played the game rather than focusing on meta-diplomacy so they can put in as little time and effort as possible things would be more interesting on the charts and people like Folle wouldn't be getting smashing into their wars from outside.

And Godly were coss maybe this would be interesting, but he's not exciting or skilled enough to turn this into anything more than a pathetic public cryfest