Jesters

[Slayerviper]

And this type of logic is really why I don't envy Bishop's position. No matter what he does he can't win because people have this fantasy in their heads that he's in cahoots with all of their enemies.

I used to be one of you because I didn't like one of Bishop's rulings. Eventually I had to accept reality that Bishop in fact doesn't care if you're in his kingdom, a longtime friend, a longtime ****talker and that we're all treated the same.

The decision impacts me little. I just came here to say it is two people who live in the same house hold. I stated why its funny that this all happened even though these two have already notified support they lived in the same home with the same IP (this is an assumption on my part as they stated this years ago) and did this for years then all of a sudden this cluster **** of a thread has happened.

The "guilty party" says they never log onto each-other devices and Bishop says they do. We will never know what really happened as Bishop won't post the proof here (I honestly can't blame him, I wouldn't either). Everyone says just use different devices yet the "guilty individuals" keep stating they don't or at least not as frequently as the informal logs Bishop provided. I've played with them for years and have seen other posts from people who played with them from other KD, these are good people just trying to enjoy the game.

I wouldn't be surprised if they was some accidental logging in over time but not as much that has been "proven", this leads me to believe the methods to track xlogging/same tech on same IP isn't doing what it is supposed to be doing. I think the real issue is can we all actually prove and work together that couples or friends living in the same dwelling can play this game or not. Do it out of the forums ofc.

I could care less how this all roles out, but all this thread does is reinforce my reasoning not to play any more. Toxic community and too much politics.

[Korp]

In this situation Bishop is not the court, he is the prosecutor presenting evidence of cheating. The public 3rd parties are the court.

He's mother****ing Judge Dredd.

[Dazzanub]

I'm just calling into question why the obvious steps (screenshot) weren't taken to avoid such accusations in the first place, and merely meditating on the reasons behind it. There's nothing to hide from posting the screenshot. I'm sure any sensitive information can just be blanked out via paint editing. This is a serious situation, people have been accused of cheating. That's a big deal. The authenticity of proof should match the seriousness of the accusation.

In law, in the country I study in anyways, there are situations where proof can't be forced out of someone, in particular in situations of paternity tests. For human rights reasons the court cant physically force a man to undergo a medical test. But if the man refuses to consent to the test, the court can draw adverse assumptions based on the refusal to consent. Surely you can see the relation to our present situation. By denying the release of the screenshot it is you, yourself, that have opened yourself up to accusations and casting doubt on the situation.

I am holding Alaric in contempt of court. You are dismissed.

You missed the point btw in what Korp was saying. If you want to get something from someone, it usually pays to play nice. Not to make demands and accusations. You sound like a child throwing a tantrum.

Giddy giddy you're studying law and I know you're excited to show off to everyone how big your e-peen is because you have some "authority" on this issue. Sorry pleb. This isn't the court. This is a game. Go back to your studies.

[pierniczek]

Toxic community and too much politics.

While I do think not everyone is toxic and there are still a lot of people that are reasonable I do agree that there definatley is too much politics.

[Slayerviper]

He's mother****ing Judge Dredd.

:) Liking this +1

[Dazzanub]

In this situation Bishop is not the court, he is the prosecutor presenting evidence of cheating. The public 3rd parties are the court.

In fact he is the prosecution and the court. Gtfo. Quit making stuff up

[Alaric]

This isn't public court, this is a private business with private assets, private procedures and an obvious requirement to keep detection methods out of the eyes of potential cheaters.

A screenshot will expose some of our detection methods, I am not going to do that. This is standard across the gaming industry.

Lets be clear, what you presented here was not evidence, it was your word that THE REAL evidence that you cannot show, contained that information. If you want to protect the company assets thats fine, but if you have the power to never need to prevent evidence what stops you from deleting anyone at anytime for any reason? What fail-safes exist to prevent arbitrary deletion of anyone in this game?

[Bishop]

Lets be clear, what you presented here was not evidence, it was your word that THE REAL evidence that you cannot show, contained that information. If you want to protect the company assets thats fine, but if you have the power to never need to prevent evidence what stops you from deleting anyone at anytime for any reason? What fail-safes exist to prevent arbitrary deletion of anyone in this game?

None, zero, nadda. It entirely rests on me. I am, and have been for 6 years, the main reason this game is here.

[Korp]

Lets be clear, what you presented here was not evidence, it was your word that THE REAL evidence that you cannot show, contained that information. If you want to protect the company assets thats fine, but if you have the power to never need to prevent evidence what stops you from deleting anyone at anytime for any reason? What fail-safes exist to prevent arbitrary deletion of anyone in this game?

I think you should first present evidence that you're not a multi.

[chilly2342]

I think you should first present evidence that you're not a multi.

What evidence do you want/need?

[pierniczek]

I think you should first present evidence that you're not a multi.

Just because he doesn't have over 5k posts doesn't mean he's a multie.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Just because he doesn't have over 5k posts doesn't mean he's a multie.

Ok... what's your point?

[pierniczek]

Ok... what's your point?

That Alaric doesn't necessarily have to be a multie.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Nobody ever said he was, right?

[Alaric]

What fail-safes exist to prevent arbitrary deletion of anyone in this game?

None, zero, nadda.

3char.

My purpose is done here.