The U or "How to fail even ending on 2nd place for Dummies"

[StratOcastle]

You missed my point =)
People know its me robing them, theres shadowlight, theres failed ops ... just pointing out that if you are reasonable you will be ignored.
If you are thorn in a side and people remember you things get ugly.
So dont get remembered =)

No, you're Freeakstyle. It's like if Shaquille O'neal was a crappy pickpocket: you might be reluctant to react violently.

it's funny how people forget where they are. When I was in Pyro I never saw any randoms. I wonder why?

[Swagger]

Hipchat history is limited so I cant check, but I seem to recall one of our guys loosing 5 out of 8m he had on hands to your thieves early in prep vs U.
And that was just one case, you guys were constantly in our news.

Given U's reaction its safe to assume you didnt take scraps, or even reasonable amount.

Pro-tip, you can pull data logs through hipchat website that will go back to when the channel was created for free. It might be admin only feature not sure.

[Rizen]

Welcome back :)

I never got a welcome back

[texn]

I never got a welcome back

Welcome back!

[Rizen]

Welcome back!

oh hai

[vdshark]

you guys did like 10 0 acre hits, we did 1:d we can't let you be the only noobs out there

[Aranfein]

So .. The problem is that I show no remorse. Even if I apologized countless times for any wrong doing that we might have done.*

Bluorr what I meant by remorse is that you apologise yet defend your actions and even push them to be aggressive, you can't apologise yet continue to OP the exact same people, that just appears like your apology isn't sincere.

You already got a bunch of kds angry at you and if it's a gb raze you wish to avoid then it ain't the best course of action.

[Sephi]

Right so didnt read all, mostly from page 8 till 12 orso. Might be missing some points.

but yes I am getting razed(as attacker btw :) ), by TheU our partybuddies atm, not complaining there, I can take one for the team. Just stating a fact as I joined the razing on their prov.
And of course I am hitting out with spare offense, I need to keep some land, just randomly on fat provinces, if that province retall well sure my bad for a bad gamble. I prefer to give theU a bit of work instead of a free raze ride.
Its not hitting into hostiles, its not coordinated waving by us, its just hitting out for land into random kds. I mean ffs tell me: if you can only hit 1 prov in your hostile kd, you would expect me to hit for 1 acre? or even 0 now?

The rest of the discussion table is for you guys. I cant be arsed to be a grammar nazi try different interpretations and what not. Thats why I am not leading anymore and why Warcry isnt really the correct name for Crazy Animals.

Oh and if you guys think that this will disband, hurt or do whatever bad thing to us... sorry solid crew, hell they even continued when I told em to drop it. Cant get much more stubborn than that, can you?

last note to TheU, I think our monarch is open for diplo, but I doubt he will just sit back and accept getting raze killed like that.

[bluorr]

Bluorr what I meant by remorse is that you apologise yet defend your actions and even push them to be aggressive, you can't apologise yet continue to OP the exact same people, that just appears like your apology isn't sincere.

You already got a bunch of kds angry at you and if it's a gb raze you wish to avoid then it ain't the best course of action.

I have personally contacted the monarch of the U when the razes started, offering my apologies for the bad/lack (of) diplo, thus showing my intention to talk things through. His reply was in the lines that we stole from them, ignored their messages and that he`ll stop when he feels like stopping. So my very first action within this conflict was to present my apologies to the one we wronged and try to open a dialogue. I think that pretty much says it all, isn`t it? But ok, he didn`t want to continue the discussions, hence I came here on the forums trying to soften somehow the things up. I have no grudge against him nor his Kd. My problem lays in the extent of his decision. He`s doing what he has to do, I`m doing what I have to do. In our heads ... we`re just and right. Once again, I offer him a chair at the discussion table if he is willing to accept it.

As for me going aggressive ... I was calm for many many hours and many many pages. I tried to civilly explain over and over again while people were just taking things out of the context to fit their view. Very few bothered to be objective or constructive. For example ... there`s 14 pages already ... everybody repeats that we stole. NOBODY even acknowledges or mentions that we friggin` paid in full for almost every penny that we stole. Even if I have repeated that a dozen times. And you wonder why I lost it ?:)

[2Utopian]

No, you're Freeakstyle. It's like if Shaquille O'neal was a crappy pickpocket: you might be reluctant to react violently.

it's funny how people forget where they are. When I was in Pyro I never saw any randoms. I wonder why?

Holy hell I agree with Strato, end of the world is near? I love how you think you are doing it different or better cita with no regard to your standing with feyrplay or individual kingdom strength.

[Zauper]

I have personally contacted the monarch of the U when the razes started, offering my apologies for the bad/lack (of) diplo, thus showing my intention to talk things through. His reply was in the lines that we stole from them, ignored their messages and that he`ll stop when he feels like stopping. So my very first action within this conflict was to present my apologies to the one we wronged and try to open a dialogue. I think that pretty much says it all, isn`t it? But ok, he didn`t want to continue the discussions, hence I came here on the forums trying to soften somehow the things up. I have no grudge against him nor his Kd. My problem lays in the extent of his decision. He`s doing what he has to do, I`m doing what I have to do. In our heads ... we`re just and right. Once again, I offer him a chair at the discussion table if he is willing to accept it.

So the issue is that you ignored them when they tried to do diplo. When they gave you the same treatment you came to complain on the forums and try to get people to convince them that they're in the wrong?

[Lowed420]

NOBODY even acknowledges or mentions that we friggin` paid in full for almost every penny that we stole.

You just said yourself you've "almost" paid in full. Almost doesn't sound complete.

[Chrystal Palace]

So it's ok for you to ignore us and steal from us for weeks and it's not ok that we serve the same treatment? We aren't even trying to kill off one single prov. We spreading the love homie.

[Palem]

I never got a welcome back

Welcome back :)

[Verminator]

HI CHRYSTAL PALACE, please change your kingdom name to "The F U" while this is going on, because I'm proud that I came up with something clever.