Age 69

[Bart of Sparta]

Re-organize Mailbox:

1. Mass messages from monarch/Stew to other provnces should be combined into a single tab, from M/S POV, with the option to delete the tab, OR combine into a single message with the option to expand/contract.
2. Messages from/to other kingdoms should be organized as a single discussion thread? or at least put it in a separated tab, with the option to delete the whole tab/message(s)

I would already be satisfied having 1 separate tab called "important stuff"

[s0830887]

Don't bring x2 wiz training back. I loved it, everyone else loved it, but it actually makes T/M life much more difficult as they have to find pop space for massive wpa as attackers were sitting on a lot more also.

I love the idea for 2-3 stewards as well. I think that would make monarch life a lot easier.

I would also like to see elite cost and nw dropped. The crazy army values has been interesting this age, but it definitely made this age less enjoyable for me than others (just personal feeling though).

Increase eowcf back to 96 hrs, and to even it out make fort just one day. Dropping fort from 3-2 days has been good this age, but eowcf with high leet cost has made life difficult.

Switch to land-based gains. Take nw out of the game entirely even.

[Sephi]

DO something against Honor whoring OOW. Especially the kds having 1 or 2 wars being in the top 10 honor. Who just payed their way with GC for honor into the top.

[Panthira]

DO something against Honor whoring OOW. Especially the kds having 1 or 2 wars being in the top 10 honor. Who just payed their way with GC for honor into the top.

Yes...

[Bart of Sparta]

DO something against Honor whoring OOW. Especially the kds having 1 or 2 wars being in the top 10 honor. Who just payed their way with GC for honor into the top.

I already made a suggestion to fix it: Apply the same mechanics to honor gains that apply to land gains. As it stands honor gains aren't affected by receiving KD's stance, RKNW and GBP, which means it's fairly easy to get a ton of honor without a ton of land. I did some calcs last age. If we had wanted it we could've easily finished the age on 200K honor by simply bouncing down high honor provs then quadding with core in-range into insane GBP, barely taking land yet taking 3% honor/hit.

[Uhm hoi]

+1 on applying RKNW on honour gains, and increasing it's influence.

Currently getting smacked around by the #2 honour kd (beastblood?) who use nw manipulation to get in nw range to hit and get oor right after. There really is nothing we can do against it, but our t/m's are getting taken out just before another war by a kd not even in warrange.

EDIT: Well, I suppose we could intra ourselves to reduce honour past baron, we're not part of any race anyway. However, I do hope Bishop and the devs don't intend for this game to head that way, it'd take away some of the fun for a quite few players. But it's something to keep in mind for next age if no change is made.

[Bo To]

They use NW manipulation because nobody is punishing them(they are targeting my KD too). This can be done only when you are 'too big to fail'. And my suggestion was honor to be gained/lost only during hostile/war because even with RKNW when your target is marquis+ the gain still could be good.

[MaximII]

+1 to either additional RS's or allowing another province to change Monarch Message. That would be supremely helpful.

Also, have checkboxes in the forum and a button that says "delete selected," so that monarchs and RS's can mass delete messages instead of doing it 1 by 1. It would reduce server load and make the forums run more efficiently.

[beans]

the honour crown race is the ****tiest one with the most dirtbag plays. Every age there is bottom feeding ****bag drama with the honour crown, honour system is long overdue for an overhaul. Especially now with anons destroying honour, the whole system has gotten wacky.

[Sephi]

Thanks bart and hopefully they fix it, because this is just bollocks.

[DonJuan]

I think the attacker race's elite offense power (specificaly undead and orc, but can include avian/dwarf/human) is just too damn high!


I have seen lots of Faeries around mid to lower tier KDs get broken at home thanks to super high offense orcs and undead after about half-way thru the age (when the sci-mods really start to kick in).


I thought maybe this would have to be the new norm and faeries would have to just train off specs to ambush...however realizing that a simple anon can nullify that thought and had me wonder what else can T/Ms do while in Normal Stance to better defend themselves?


Losing land and not being able to recover it as easily as an attacker could, especially after rebuilding post-EoWCF or post-Fortified, puts the race at a huge disadvantage leading up to a war. Also considering the fact that there are top kingdoms that are always looking for higher-nw land targets almost guarantees that t/ms can always be broken no matter how big they get within the size range of their own KDs...i can understand the futility,


Possibly adding +1 defense to Faery Elites would be the best suggestion to give (rather than lowering offense on any attacker elite units or boosting the power of Forts)

[Fiskinator]

Recovering land from the odd oow random isn't too bad. Recovering the elites on the other hand...

[jmiedema]

I was playing Fae/Heretic this age and have a few notes. I personally didnt find problems being UB from orcs/undead that were my same size. The problem in my eyes is that the faery elites are so expensive. Due to them being so expensive, it required every tick of peace time going to ToG just to get enough money to be able to run a full elite army. The problem with this is it forces a faery this age to not be able to run high guilds to rebuild back their wizards as they need to run high banks/homes just to have the income to have full leet army and be prepared for their next conflict. To me, as a faery, I would have rather not had ToG this age and had a leet that was 900-1000gc. At least then I could have went into wars with 100% mana, not like 50-60% and could have run some sci higher than active in peace time lol. You get lots of gc as a faery through ToG but every single penny of it is needed to offset the leet cost, and there is no guarantees that thieves won't take that money from you. I can imagine it is very difficult in the warring tier to get high elite %.

I think Faery leet needs to be cheaper. +1 defense probably isn't needed from my perspective.. but it wouldn't hurt..

Heretic I found was fun and interesting, but I found magically I wasn't effective until YR 8+. Mystic was given double guilds as they are the premiere magic personality and it was deemed they need a boost to wpa generation to keep them apart from other personalities... I think this same mindset needs to go into Heretic. But since Heretic is a hybrid T/M sort of personality, they should be given 1.5x guilds. Maybe make it so they have -50% wizard losses from failed spells (instead of -100% currently) just so it isn't too strong. Heretics are very durable with their wpa once they get a good amount. however GETTING to that wpa is very very difficult. I couldn't even use my premiere spell (Nightmare) until YR 9 (and I was in an environment where I was able to pump quite freely)

Maybe also give Heretics a low difficulty spell that is Heretic only, so they can do something unique in the early age. Maybe Chastity on Heretic instead of Mystic.

Thief-Wise as a Heretic I found in theory I should have been able to run little to no TD's, but in practice you realize just how high thieves you can lose on successful missions. I still ended up having to run 15%+ Dens every war just to offset successful operation losses (as well as increase TPA) Not sure that is the intended design, but maybe a change could be: -75% thief losses from all thief operations (from -100% thief losses on failed thief operations).

TL;DR:
Faery Leet cost reduced OR Faery Leet Defense value +1
Heretic changed to have "-50% wizards die from exploding spells" AND "Guilds are 1.5x more effective"
Heretic given Chastity (on top of nightmares)
Heretic change to "-75% thief losses on all thief operations" FROM "-100% thief losses on failed operations"

[L.s.D]

I made an account just to suggest two things
1. Horses attack/ defense 2/2 or 2/1
2. Anonymity attack( distributes lost honor(of the attacked target) to other provinces evenly -i`m talking about the mates of the province that did the anonymity attack)

[beans]

lots of good points

As far as heretic getting a heretic only spell, its got nightmares. Nightmares used to be available to mystics, so it makes sense that it would require a mystic level of wpa to get good success. However rather than giving guild buff to heretic, or wpa buff, I would suggest just lowering the difficulty of NM. Make it feasible for heretic to get off NM waves on enemy attackers with out the insane wpa advantage needed now.