How is what BB is doing not against the rules?

[cRs]

Spirit of the Rules
Players attempting to manipulate rules and quirks of the game in ways obviously not intended may be subject to deletion.

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Was defection intended to be used to gain land/honor?

I would say obviously not.

I'd also like to know what people see as the difference between aid/reset and defect/farm/reset are, because the latter seems clearly worse to me.

Nobody cares.. Not even bishop :) and as u can clearlly see there "they can be a subject to deletion" - its part of the "unwriten rulles" of top kds I guess. The game has turned into taxes and whoring - and bishop made it this way. Play it or leave it - we dont give a fck - its the clear msg. Easy :)

[Darkmoore]

Ohh my.. The big boys talk about what is right and wrong again... Stop being plain sad and bend the rules as you please to get the outcome you look for.
It is more than okay that you do the bending part, but be truthfully about it.

1st NW/Acres: Taxing the **** of kingdoms
1st Honor: Deleting provinces to gain more honor + sitting on no defense
2nd Honor: Dropping 6-7 million NW to war a kingdom.

I am sure those who care to keep up with things could add much more to the above list.

[protector]

-Whore a prov to the cap, gaining honor and land.
-Defect that prov, hit it with remaining 24 provs to gain honor and land at their top.
-Reset prov
-Whore it back up and repeat.

I'd say that is CLEARLY not an intended use of game mechanics, to load up on honor.

1. A kingdom has no name.
2. The provinces we defected didn't whore (elf+faery)
3. We lost land (15k+), you should be happy.
4. We barely break even on honor. The defecters aren't dukes or princes, they're just barons.
5. Defecting+hitting has been done before and there's nothing wrong with it. You'd have a point if we use the defectees to give a button or w/e.

Why dont you just report them instead of creating this drama thread?

Because he knows it's legit and he loves creating drama, esp about us!

[Regular Joe]

Probably because we told him that Bishop said it was legit historically :p.

I've always supported the meta of grow to cap -> defect, grow provs above cap -> repeat

Stop crying little man

[StratOcastle]

Really hate my ban from talking about KD related stuff right about now.

Vizzini: You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia"

[AvAtar]

When I defected I mostly got farmed by randoms, just saiyan.

Lier, lier, pants on fire.


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[MyNameIsMatija]

Ya, I wish they would let you post stuff. You usually end up leaking anyway....

I have nothing to hide, it's just that I come off as arrogant apparently and low people turn the mob against you, this thread is a great example.

[StratOcastle]

"people" is a strong word.

The esteemed players are arguing, yes. I'm not arguing though, and if it's fair game then it's yet another strategy to use at the appropriate time. Innovating a concept and having it revealed here by BB or the target kingdom is noteworthy. One can incorporate versions of this strat to achieve objectives at any level.

Knowledge shouldn't be feared. You see it, dismantle it, learn its strengths and weaknesses. Nothing has changed in the field of retaliation; you do it or you don't.

[Darkz Azn]

Unnamed Kingdom, fyi ... OS + BB + randoms ... Odd City

[Fiskinator]

It's a joke that this kind of crap is allowed. Clearly against the spirit of the rules

[Darkz Azn]

Whining is a against the spirit of the games ...

[ivan_ddimitrov]

BB make nothing against the rules but they will win the honor crown doing not so honoroble things like offering gc in exchange of honor, whole age whoring (only 2 wars) and defecting and reseting. I admit that they are good and organized kingdom and any kingdom decide how to reach his goals.

[noobium]

GB before eoa.

Oh it's not like wsk wasn't above questionable plays to win charts. I should know. The most hilarious one required a kingdom to donk into maxing meter though...

[Folle]

Complaining on forums will not get them sanctioned, if they are breaking any rules.

Everybody who thinks its cheating, report them to support.

If nothing happens, clearly its not against the rules and only the community can sanction them.

[drkzeraga]

Complaining on forums will not get them sanctioned, if they are breaking any rules.

Everybody who thinks its cheating, report them to support.

If nothing happens, clearly its not against the rules and only the community can sanction them.

Complaining on the forum IS the way to get them sanctioned by the community no?