Spartans Vs Nonpandas

[DM_Benjamin]

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[octobrev]

[Anri]

Congrats on the win, by performance in war you deserve it and by circumstances that lead up to the conflict itself you dont deserve it. Wish the war could of played out in a different kind of way with both kds in full prep. It takes bit of fun out of it and the win is not near as tasty as it could of been for you but that is your call entirely.

[octobrev]

There's no good reason to give an inch to a kingdom that has never given one in turn.

[CannaWhoopazz]

Energy was low to begin with going into the hostile, and never really improved much. There were mistakes made and we had 8 provinces on sitting almost the whole hostile, which just drained people that much more.

Personally: I think we should have trained our offense 6 hours later than we did, so that we weren't full army at the start of notice, but we still would have been able to snipe offenses when their first wave returned. The plan was always to eat the first wave and then snipe offenses, so I think being fully trained and then sitting home was a mistake. We also learned that bouncing is fail when you can just break and get better kills. We were too worried about keeping the meter, but we were sending such big % bounces, so we gave a lot of points anyway. Would have been better to just break instead. There was also a drastic rune shortage, which prevented us from doing pretty much any offensive spells. And because of that, we couldn't slow their top avians down at all.

People wanted to bounce the banks during hostile instead of snipe offenses, but I'm not yet convinced that would have been better. Those big dwarves weren't much of an issue in hostile, and for 75% of the war they had no econ and weren't the biggest threat either. They did pitch in a lot toward dragon killing (I think) which was big to help swing troop counts back into their favor.

As always, I try to learn from my mistakes and come back better. That being said, I think our hostile+war plan was pretty solid, but we failed to execute it properly. There are things that should have been different, but that was mostly execution.

[Anri]

There's no good reason to give an inch to a kingdom that has never given one in turn.

I dont know about any of that, i never was here to know about any such things taking place and most of this KD is new.
But sure, i can see it that way if it did happen as you say it did. The scenarios just cant be compared to each other and that is a problem.

[makeo]

Octobrev ideology > Anri was expected kinda ..if you are all about the crowns, no trouble.
As blocksies and pincers come more natural .

And it being ...hmm. .questionable.

That said, looks a pretty ****ty war performance from Panda/non Panda tbh.

Not enough activity and depended on position rather than fighting. Imo.

Paper /intel looks **** on your side in trying to pull some moves by the highest standards.

(And by highest, I mean an active me with nubs in range would lose horrifically but not think you were amazing. ;) )

[Bart of Sparta]

Thanks to Pandas for a good conflict. I hope we can now finally draw a line under what happened this and last age and start from a clean sheet.

[Anri]

Thanks to Pandas for a good conflict. I hope we can now finally draw a line under what happened this and last age and start from a clean sheet.

That is funny considering all that happen, how are the scenarios even remotely comparable? Clean sheet just like that?
Its not up to me to decide anyway, just saying.

[citadela01]

Puppeteers cashed in, cheating paid off.
Sad times.

[p0ngkol]

and the hate continues...

[Bart of Sparta]

That is funny considering all that happen, how are the scenarios even remotely comparable? Clean sheet just like that?
Its not up to me to decide anyway, just saying.

Well it's true we have more to complain about than you guys, so I'd have to convince the Spartans if they're willing to call it quits. All I'm saying was that even though you guys misled us and hit our banks and constantly accused us of something we had nothing to do with, the good war probably made good on that.

[Osaze]

If you had problems with morale and couldn't keep your ppl together and engaged you weren't going to win a crown at all.

[Poopsie]

Too many sour people in this forum on Spartan Win. Looks fair to me. 3 days preparation after notice and Panda was bigger when the war starts. Based on updates, it looks like activity play a big part on this war. Spartans were more active than Panda. And Panda's strat didnt work well.

[Anri]

Well considering none of our provs was prepared properly that is BS. We lacked overall army and gc.