A request to the Admins. Protect interests of larger KDs.

[Binar]

Yeah, cause "editet" doesnt give him away :P

[MyNameIsMatija]

But he thinks he won! You have to crush his spirit.

[Bart of Sparta]

But he thinks he won! You have to crush his spirit.

Soon as someone manages to crush Korp's spirit, I'll quit uto.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Many have tried...

[Bishop]

We don't get involved in political stuff, which this falls under.

[Korp]

Yeah, cause "editet" doesnt give him away :P

And I was 1000% super serious as well. :)

[Palem]

There's nothing stopping you from razing them out of their wars or just raze killing them one by one if they don't war.

As an aside, your reaction "screw what you want, we're the bigger kingdom so you'll do what we want or we'll punish you" is exactly why smaller kingdoms need to be able to raze into wars.

[Goodwitch]

so let's for a minute pretend this was BB,42,CR,FS,Emeriti (not a complete list just trying to keep it neutral)...they randomed into a smaller kingdom and the smaller kingdom retalled.
when asked for cf the smaller kingdom demands acres...would these kingdoms give them acres for a cf?

pretty sure y'all answered no.
so then this kingdom razes into the big kingdom's war.
would they blame themselves for bad diplo?
would they just eat the hits?

pretty sure y'all answered no again.

food for thought

p.s. pm me and I will try to talk to them. Can't promise they'll stop razing into war but it can't hurt.

[Bishop]

pretty sure y'all answered no.

Not me, because that would be silly. A small ghetto with someone that knows how to play and has nothing to lose is a huge liability, I would negotiate.

[neanderthal]

Any kingdom if motivated can pick and choose times and screw up an age.

[Zauper]

so let's for a minute pretend this was BB,42,CR,FS,Emeriti (not a complete list just trying to keep it neutral)...they randomed into a smaller kingdom and the smaller kingdom retalled.
when asked for cf the smaller kingdom demands acres...would these kingdoms give them acres for a cf?

pretty sure y'all answered no.
so then this kingdom razes into the big kingdom's war.
would they blame themselves for bad diplo?
would they just eat the hits?

pretty sure y'all answered no again.

food for thought

p.s. pm me and I will try to talk to them. Can't promise they'll stop razing into war but it can't hurt.

It would depend on a lot of things. If I had time, sure, I wouldn't give them land. If I didn't have time, I'd do what it takes to end it. We have CF'ed down acres to smaller kds often.

These guys didn't do what it takes to end it (destroying the kd) and didn't do the diplo necessary to end it that way.

p.s. when the guy went into vm, that was probably vm abuse and you could/should have reported it.

[sexual harassment panda]

Smaller kingdoms always complain the game mechanics protect larger kingdoms too much. Now a larger kd is complaining about the game mechanics. Seems like the system is pretty fair when both sides are unhappy.

You picked the wrong kd to mess with and probably shouldn't have retalliated their retal. You definitely shouldn't have continued to raze the guy in the future. Sometimes as a larger kingdom you need to take a small loss to ensure you don't take a larger one down the road.

Being able to hit into wars is an integral part of the community being able to police itself. There are so many unwritten rules with gray areas that the admins can't be asked to step in to settle disputes.

[Bart of Sparta]

so let's for a minute pretend this was BB,42,CR,FS,Emeriti (not a complete list just trying to keep it neutral)...they randomed into a smaller kingdom and the smaller kingdom retalled.
when asked for cf the smaller kingdom demands acres...would these kingdoms give them acres for a cf?

pretty sure y'all answered no.
so then this kingdom razes into the big kingdom's war.
would they blame themselves for bad diplo?
would they just eat the hits?

pretty sure y'all answered no again.

food for thought

p.s. pm me and I will try to talk to them. Can't promise they'll stop razing into war but it can't hurt.

Said KD would be GBed and razekilled to the last province :)

[Persain]

Said KD would be GBed and razekilled to the last province :)

and the bigger kd would get screwed hard too. Im often the smaller kd and kds like cr/bb/whoever know not to !#@$ with us because we'll sit there and get pk'ed over and over and not care. We did that to coss in sleepy and it arguably cost them the age because they made bad cf's so they could deal with us. When the situation was reversed and my kd was big coss cost us 2 cows and really hurt our age too. Which is why

If I didn't have time, I'd do what it takes to end it. We have CF'ed down acres to smaller kds often.

The op screwed up diplomacy. As much as he doesnt wanna hear it and thinks that most people say something like "lol noob learn 2 diplo," the correct answer is do better diplomacy...he engaged a smaller kd he needed to work out a reasonable cf. Not a CF us or we'll raze you, but a reasonable cf as the op said

more hits on us for an all age CF. Obviously, we denied the very concept of all age CF.

he had a reasonable offer, he should of just tacked on "fine eoacf unless we war eachother".

[Bart of Sparta]

Just wanna say, glad to see you back on the forums Persain. Next time you go AFK for a while I'll just deny our DB on you again :D