Spartans Vs Nonpandas

[Binar]

Can you take full blame too or i need to split it :P

sure

[baka]

This bambino Baka reminds of Vlahul. Coming in here all big mouth blazing guns from 15 ages ago bla bla. Everyone knows whats happened to Vlahul when crossing spartans path. Cant wait for this bambino Baka to meet same destiny.

Erm... we already met this age with Spartans and let's just say it wasn't pretty for them.

[Bart of Sparta]

Erm... we already met this age with Spartans and let's just say it wasn't pretty for them.

Even though I didn't lead that war, when I looked at the intel a few hours before surrender it was clear you were going to lose long-term. We found out it was FS we were fighting, and didn't want to get stuck in a ghetto-war for 2 weeks. So we pulled out to stay in the whoring race :)

[protector]

I don't mind to have drink with you. Just don't GB me if i get drunk :P

Aren't eastern Europeans always drunk?!

ps. Utopia meeting would be cool! Wonder if Sean, Brian & Bishop would attend ;)

[protector]

Woah, baka v Proteus, makes me think we're back in 2005!

Big e-peen man over here likes to talk a big game but statistics are not on your side.

While no secret baka likes to brag a bit, you are at least a degree worse on that front than baka. You consistently brag about achievements and records.

Also Abs never blocked for any one kingdom.

False. I got my killers hit in a hostile by Drixx (Fury I think?) and later turned it it was because Hawk told him/them to do it :p

No offense baka, you are no doubt a good player, but when I came back to the game Proteus was seen as a famous/legendary player who had many achievements. Until you came back this age I hadn't heard of you really. Proteus rejoined Emeriti last age and they crowned right away. Could be a coincidence of course, who knows. I'm not well-versed in uto-history but in my dealings with Proteus he has always seemed hugely knowledgeable about the game. If he was so terrible why would Binar/Djorje and the other Emeriti guys put up with him ^^ ?

I would rather call it known/good. Famous/legendary are only for a select few IMO. Of course he's not terrible (except that one time were #teamFeyr+prot bounced like 3 of his hits in a row!), but the same can be said about baka. I can't really judge their leading skills, but both are capable of running a province without being micro'd. That's worth quite a bit when recruiting. The less micro needed, the easier it is for a leader. Kind of like how Zauper posted earlier, about not needing to worry about who to pool up if said province is in best spot to be pooled.
Proteus has strong ties with Absalom due to his past, so taking him into Emeriti is no real surprise.

As for last age, Emeriti and Pyro had the strongest OOP's. CR then got smashed by Pyro, so by then Emeriti had probably won the age already. While the 2 warred, Emeriti was able to whore. Early on, whoring beats warring (except a mintime farm). Based on that it wasn't really a surprise.
Sure, later FS gave it a shot but their setup/science was inferior to Emeriti's. That fight was more a question of how much Emeriti would gain rather than if they would win.

@Korp we beat Pyro, CR and Pandas last age. Sure, we had significant advantages in each of those conflicts, but we capitalized on that and not just won, but completely farmed our opposition in each conflict, even leading to Pyro intra-razing to escape us afterwards. Would like to emphasize here that CR is on a whole different level compared to Pandas/Pyro. Pyro was merely 2-3 very good leaders (yes, Nesta and Flogger are among the best in the game), a few active players and a lot of noobs. I honestly don't remember the last time Pandas won a real war. I think if you exclude their early-age farmwar this age, they've now lost their last 6 conflicts?

I think fights you can't really lose are a bad comparison to what Korp probably means. A 50/50 fight is probably the best benchmark, but they rarely happen. You can say you beat CR, but you beat like a half CR due to the odds.

And in Panda's defense, they lost from an inferior position to us last age (even tho we didn't want the war lol) and they did 'beat' Jesters this age while coming from a dealbreak (I think longterm they would have gotten a 50% win).

[protector]

This bambino Baka reminds of Vlahul. Coming in here all big mouth blazing guns from 15 ages ago bla bla. Everyone knows whats happened to Vlahul when crossing spartans path. Cant wait for this bambino Baka to meet same destiny.

And who are you? Show us your resumé!

ps. baka & spartans already met this age and baka came out as winner!

[Judge]

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Big post so just used 2 dots (.)

Getting Proteus back was indeed my best/worst decision :P I Pushed Binar to get Proteus and he reluctantly came back to utopia!! :D

But the good news is, We are back in 2005 (as u said before) and its super fun to see the old tards back and fighting :D

[Elit]

Big post so just used 2 dots (.)

Getting Proteus back was indeed my best/worst decision :P I Pushed Binar to get Proteus and he reluctantly came back to utopia!! :D

But the good news is, We are back in 2005 (as u said before) and its super fun to see the old tards back and fighting :D

Yes now with Baka and Proteus i don't need to play much in forum. He is going to stay active and hot!

[Bishop]

I'm going to close this is it isnt put back on topic.

If baka and proteus want to go hug it out in another thread me my guest

[Bart of Sparta]

Noo don't close it! We Spartans want the longest thread of the age! Let me go back to saying how noobish Pandas are so we argue over that!

[Elit]

Noo don't close it! We Spartans want the longest thread of the age! Let me go back to saying how noobish Pandas are so we argue over that!

Longest was during CR GBing AMA age 60 if remember right. 100+ pages. You have long way to go for it :P
Your time is over here try to build new better drama!

[makeo]

Longest was during CR GBing AMA age 60 if remember right. 100+ pages. You have long way to go for it :P
Your time is over here try to build new better drama!

Age win is different from all time records Elit.

Just because you hold all time drama bomb doesn't mean Bart can't aspire to win this age forum war. ;)

[MyNameIsMatija]

He's not famous/legendary yet but he's getting there.

[Bart of Sparta]

In all fairness I've actually had conflicts that spanned over more than 100 pages on the forums, but sadly peopel chose to make side-topics related to it, so a lot of the fights were spread out. Lemme calc the FS one last age!

Edit: Seems I was quite a bit off. The Feyrplay ****play (Feyrplay calls it "Spartans DB FS") on us last age was only 38 pages combined.

http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...vs-Pyromaniacs - 29 pages
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...32529-Spartans - 18 pages
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...as-vs-Spartans - 13 pages
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...Bashing-Thread - 12 pages
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...ghting-Ferrets - 26 pages
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...eyond-Reproach - 21 pages

Will try and outdo that this age!

[Proteus]

Woah, baka v Proteus, makes me think we're back in 2005!


While no secret baka likes to brag a bit, you are at least a degree worse on that front than baka. You consistently brag about achievements and records.


False. I got my killers hit in a hostile by Drixx (Fury I think?) and later turned it it was because Hawk told him/them to do it :p


I would rather call it known/good. Famous/legendary are only for a select few IMO. Of course he's not terrible (except that one time were #teamFeyr+prot bounced like 3 of his hits in a row!), but the same can be said about baka. I can't really judge their leading skills, but both are capable of running a province without being micro'd. That's worth quite a bit when recruiting. The less micro needed, the easier it is for a leader. Kind of like how Zauper posted earlier, about not needing to worry about who to pool up if said province is in best spot to be pooled.
Proteus has strong ties with Absalom due to his past, so taking him into Emeriti is no real surprise.

As for last age, Emeriti and Pyro had the strongest OOP's. CR then got smashed by Pyro, so by then Emeriti had probably won the age already. While the 2 warred, Emeriti was able to whore. Early on, whoring beats warring (except a mintime farm). Based on that it wasn't really a surprise.
Sure, later FS gave it a shot but their setup/science was inferior to Emeriti's. That fight was more a question of how much Emeriti would gain rather than if they would win.


I think fights you can't really lose are a bad comparison to what Korp probably means. A 50/50 fight is probably the best benchmark, but they rarely happen. You can say you beat CR, but you beat like a half CR due to the odds.

And in Panda's defense, they lost from an inferior position to us last age (even tho we didn't want the war lol) and they did 'beat' Jesters this age while coming from a dealbreak (I think longterm they would have gotten a 50% win).

Prot i think you missed a couple of points but overall a decent post / response.

You hit the nail on the head, I used to talk lots of smack about results back in the day. I would also live up to what I said though (I.e telling someone we would beat them and then doing it) that kinda why people tended to not like me as id talk smack to them but then also win the fight. Generally it's awesome when someone **** talks you and then farms out, kinda like karma and you aren't left mad at that person because he owned himself.

However, I haven't really attempted to do that here now or since returning last age. My post was in response to baka's unfounded arrogance towards Bart and coming back to reform bio. I needed to remind Baka that aside from his one win the age flogger and a bunch of others joined his kd to make it happen, he hasn't done anything and has lots of losses (big ones) to top kds. No where did I attempt to say anything to praise myself or even compare myself.

If you want to talk down to someone and claim you owned them, etc. it would really help to have a winning record vs that kingdom/player/leader. Baka doesn't. With that said I didn't go and talk about my results or crowns won or kds I lead or whatever. I just said Baka hasn't done anything, and also **** played blatantly. I have him in the same category as I have Mansoor. That's all.

The bounce comment isn't really a fair one. A couple of our leaders got bounced in that war. That was actually the age I was playing on my phone for majority of the age, that was included and would take Intel 1x on phone and try to hit, and yes got bounced. Doesn't really compare when you setup multiple screens on your desktop for cow hits, etc. you guys had a super kd that age with the pulsing trollfags and beat everyone and won, that was a very good age for ya'll. The following age we beat flogger 3x in war and they finished small. I mean position changes every age. Flogger got the kudos for a good age but he also had Dirty there, who really is legendary.

As for me I don't consider myself an all time best, legendary, or anything like that would need to be playing and leading a lot earlier then when I actually started and also be able to win as well. I'm just competent and confident in my ability to lead a solid kingdom and be able to compete against people that are considered all time greats (flogger/elit/etc) and be able to win wars against them / win a crown when they are competing.

Your second part of that post kinda reads like I joined as a core player to play a province :p