-wSk- vs CR

[CR7]

I'm a leader here, I would know it the kd cheated. None of our leaders or players condone that sort of thing nor do we need to in order to win. Feel free to ask around of other top kd leaders that known us.

If you don't need to cheat in order to win, why do you need to cause your opponents to run into OOPS messages constantly? Bishop confirmed this to have happened to the kingdoms you fought. Is it a coincidence? Doubt it.

[Korp]

must admit i never been huge proteus fan even tho i ofc respekt him for what he has done, but i can say this i never seen him cheat personaly, or else i dont remember he did, i belive the first tho as i probly would have used that against him if i had remember, has he knowen of cheating in some kingdoms he has been in, yes he has, but who hasent.

There is a huge difference in being a kingdom that has people who cheat. For example multing *cough* and being in a kingdom which foundation is built on cheating.

[Zauper]

lol since when is a stupid ingame funktion the metere if you win or not, they lost there banks, wish they cant recover, so they lost, the war, the fight the age, cr will go back to nothingness.

Good war Coss and crew, CR sure got tought a lesson there i hope for them they learn from this becouse this fight was a very bad preforemnce from them, and no point in this war/hostile did they show any hint they knew what they where doing, had this been reverse the war had been over in max 3 days,

But sure they got a lil number on kingdom page, but lost anything else.

not even a bias zauper (who ofc love his old boys) can changse the fact that this was one of the worst fought fight in a long time from a kingdom with almost all benefits.

A huge tier of calves can beat a few larger cows (obviously, that's why WSK surrendered). It's also why Emeriti crowned the first age they crowned -- CP dealbroke them (it was a DB, wasn't it? Or just a wave? I don't really remember) and gave them a button while hitting their cows. They took it to war, lost thier cows but got a huge tier of safe calves. Whether CRs are big enough or can exploit it enough is really the question.

Additionally, when (as I understand?) the two kingdoms have a deal that says the winner of the war gets 30% of the loser of the wars land, it feels like surrendering means you wind up down regardless of whether you were up acres in the war itself. Seems like arguing 'well, you would have won if we stayed in the war longer but we surrendered early so we really we won' would be incredibly ridiculous :p

I've also heard something about Emeriti 'oopsing' other kds when they fought them. I'm not even sure how they'd claim to do that. Aid spam, maybe? But that would be easy to verify. If Bishop had found evidence that Emeriti abused something to oops their opponents, I'd be pretty sure that Emeriti would be actioned for it as it is clearly against the rules. I think Bishop posted something about throttling? But that was associated with the game being slow, not oopsing, and again if there was evidence of the cause I'm sure it would be banned.

[Meep]

I've also heard something about Emeriti 'oopsing' other kds when they fought them. I'm not even sure how they'd claim to do that. Aid spam, maybe? But that would be easy to verify. If Bishop had found evidence that Emeriti abused something to oops their opponents, I'd be pretty sure that Emeriti would be actioned for it as it is clearly against the rules. I think Bishop posted something about throttling? But that was associated with the game being slow, not oopsing, and again if there was evidence of the cause I'm sure it would be banned.

I mean, I would assume any kingdom that was doing that would use outside provinces from unlinked IPs to oops the provs in BB not the ones in Emeriti.

You would do that because the standard could never be set that you get actioned if anyone on the server oops' your opponent, because then you'd just oops people your rivals are fighting to get them screwed over.

It didn't take much thought to come up with several hypothetically viable ways to oops someone else's province, though actual use of those ways or a look at game code would be necessary to know for sure.

I'm still not sure I buy that Emeriti, or at least emeriti leadership was actively engaging in or aware of intentional oopsing happening from their side.

[Sheister]

ROFL?!?!?

Really? People are oopsing abuse now? In a dying game you think people are doing such petty cheats? I mean, I guess its possible, but really super pathetic if true.

[Palem]

congrats with the war win CR and for a war well fought WSK! looks like a fin one to be in :)
also congrats to coss with the New baby :)


propro, dont u have a bank or twoto pump or something?

(Palm u lied. u said youd ban them/him) ♡

No I didn't. You asked if I could and I said I could. I never said I would.

Also, faeries for life

[Binar]

we dont do that ooops thing. whoever CR7 is. and id love to see where bishop said that we do. thats the most stupid thing ive heard in ages

[MyNameIsMatija]

So I've been pushed out of #1 then? So lame.

[ZeroCool]

Lol I didnt even know you could intentionally oops someone. I've noticed that it happens more when fighting against other active kds but never really thought much of it other than thats its annoying.

Anway all drama aside I would like to congrat CR on their win. Seems like focusing on a long term strategy payed of there.
To wsk congrats on a well performed war and to coss congrats with your baby daughter.

[Band of Horses]

@Zauper wsk has to pay 40k acres? Lol guys I think wsk lost this war after all.

Everyone that was trying to say coss wasn't the corner stone of this kd, why'd they surrender just because he had to go? Other leaders couldn't handle it without him?

[Smitty87]

Is there a clause that says 30% land after the first war? Or can it also mean after the second or third when a decisive winner is found...

[Bananamancer2000]

Is there a clause that says 30% land after the first war? Or can it also mean after the second or third when a decisive winner is found...

I hope they have to keep warring until 1 is up 30(%), that sounds much more fun.

[Meep]

Is there a clause that says 30% land after the first war? Or can it also mean after the second or third when a decisive winner is found...

The original stupid deal said 30% land to whoever wins the war. (Edit: It might have been 25%, but it was a silly deal regardless)

WSK is of course trying to walk back the stupid deal by saying that this wasn't a war (lol?)

But that deal was stupid, and therefore we're just b2bing.

The ship has sailed on crowning of course, but not on beating Coss in war for the 4th time in the past 3 months.

[Nim]

(Palm u lied. u said youd ban them/him) ♡

Did you send Pam Taylor Swift tributes? If not, no ban!

[Proteus]

The original stupid deal said 30% land to whoever wins the war. (Edit: It might have been 25%, but it was a silly deal regardless)

WSK is of course trying to walk back the stupid deal by saying that this wasn't a war (lol?)

But that deal was stupid, and therefore we're just b2bing.

The ship has sailed on crowning of course, but not on beating Coss in war for the 4th time in the past 3 months.

Even if they gave you 25-30% land after this that wouldn't really help you have a crown shot as you wouldn't be able to pump on it.

Also deals like this are just ridiculous, basically giving kingdoms that don't have a chance to compete a chance by deliberately farming out. This is the exact concept as farming out to shape charts except there is a more formal aspect to it.