Rule Clarification

[Korp]

I actually took issue with mods commenting on gameplay so I will be refraining from that. I also will not be moderating anything that involves the kingdom I play in or myself so impartiality should not be an issue.

So much for that promise I guess.

[azsxdcfv]

Does your arm hurt when Voldebart needs something?

Nice haha

[octobrev]

Maybe, as part of their newfound commitments to the community, the mods should confine themselves to playing in 1:1 with the developers. Why take their word that they won't exploit opportunities to use their positions for personal gain when they could drastically reduce perceived pressures put on them in the course of play (they could still be pressured by friends and ex-kd mates but it's a start). It would be kind of silly to put them into this sort of position while playing and not expect them to find ways to use it advantageously.

[Palem]

Maybe I'm just not a very good cheater, but I see literally no way of gaining an advantage in the game by having the ability to ban people on the Utopia Talk forum, especially when the other mods have the ability to undo shady decisions.

[Korp]

Maybe I'm just not a very good cheater, but I see literally no way of gaining an advantage in the game by having the ability to ban people on the Utopia Talk forum, especially when the other mods have the ability to undo shady decisions.

You already forgot the "case" Proteus brought fowards to you? ;)

[Allanon]

Personally I don't see too much in-game opportunity to be had from moderating a forum. We have already agreed to recuse ourselves from moderating any threads relating to our kds as part of our appointment to the role.

So you are missing two points from your triad:
- There is no perceived opportunity relating to advancing our kd or personal goals in-game, as moderation activities in these forums neither directly nor indirectly affect in-game events in a positive way,
- There is no perceived pressure to exercise our power in an unethical manner resulting from our playing the game beyond threads relating to our respective kingdoms which we have already agreed to recuse ourselves from.

[octobrev]

Believe me, there are ways. With utimes/alliancerankings gone and irc dying, the forum is the exclusive means of broadcasting information. Even small measures of control over it are useful. Look to Fox News and CNN for inspiration!

[Korp]

The problem is you can't even have an intellectual discussion with a mod on here without being banned, one side has ban authority and the other does not.

Just leaving this here.

[Palem]

There's 2 things wrong with that

1. It's not true
2. There are other mods that can urban you if you are wrongfully banned

[umajon911]

2. There are other mods that can urban you if you are wrongfully banned

I have yet to see a ban turn unbanned tho...by the time the "discussion" is had and decision made for unbanning, the ban is usually lifted due to time constraints.

[Palem]

I have yet to see a ban turn unbanned tho...by the time the "discussion" is had and decision made for unbanning, the ban is usually lifted due to time constraints.

For most of my time as a mod we've had 2 moderators.
If I banned you it's because you really messed up and Bishop probably would have banned you long before that.

I'm pretty sure I've only been asked a handful of times to look into Bishop's bans. I only recall 2 that actually warranted discussion (silltalk and a long Ezzerland ban).

Do you really think I'd go out of my way to cover for Proteus? Lol

[Judge]

because there is only one mod, and none of you people live in Germany.

Is that the same MOD to whom you whine day in and day out on watsapp?

[MyNameIsMatija]

I use the blue forum theme, am I a moderator too?

[Sassy_Wolfie]

Maybe, as part of their newfound commitments to the community, the mods should confine themselves to playing in 1:1 with the developers. Why take their word that they won't exploit opportunities to use their positions for personal gain when they could drastically reduce perceived pressures put on them in the course of play (they could still be pressured by friends and ex-kd mates but it's a start). It would be kind of silly to put them into this sort of position while playing and not expect them to find ways to use it advantageously.

So if we all move to 1:1, we'll all be able to moderate all threads and posts in our moderating area without any accusations of prejudice? Unfortunately, I don't think that'll be accepted so why limit our game when there are no benefits for anyone?

[Korp]

So if we all move to 1:1, we'll all be able to moderate all threads and posts in our moderating area without any accusations of prejudice? Unfortunately, I don't think that'll be accepted so why limit our game when there are no benefits for anyone?

Benefits for the people, the users, the community would be that there would be no reason to believe for ulterior motives or well less inclined to believe there is a different agenda.