"having fun warring when you have whoring and number 1 as a goal is totally pointless..." - Korp
"while I heart shiester when we both play serious and are in the same kingdom, I hate shiester on the forums and pretty much disagree with everything he says. Even he knows this." - Flogger asking me out on a date
The devs have made a decision to kill competitive utopia and have thereby killed my interest with it.
You're right, I haven't played with you in a long time. And whether you're involved or not, you have your opinions and state them on the forum, just as I have. I can only take what you state on the forums as how you think in this game. You can only take what I state in the forums as how I think in the game.
If you want, I'd be happy to discuss further through some other medium (IRC, Slack, Discord, WhatsApp, etc.), but we probably aren't going to make headway on the forum
Prolly not. I don't even know where is public chat anymore. Irc was so much better than whatever **** kids use now.
"having fun warring when you have whoring and number 1 as a goal is totally pointless..." - Korp
"while I heart shiester when we both play serious and are in the same kingdom, I hate shiester on the forums and pretty much disagree with everything he says. Even he knows this." - Flogger asking me out on a date
The devs have made a decision to kill competitive utopia and have thereby killed my interest with it.
Proteus delete his own reply?
On Proteus asking us to yield free acres and apologize, I can tell you that I'm enjoying seeing them sticking this up yours to make you pay for IRL harrassing my LS before. Yea, I think you know well what I'm talking about. Let me know if you're ready to apologize and we'll consider resetting relations then.
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Fair point, you didn't, I just assumed that was the concern.
However I still don't understand how this is abuse. If they don't want to war you (or don't want to war you now), then it makes sense that they might prefer to be out of war range. Isn't that just using the mechanics to do what the mechanics do? Similarly if they want to build non-competing provs, I don't see how that abuses the rules (even if we might say it's lame or whatever).
I can see that the artificially low nw by being undertrained might be argued to be abuse of nw mechanics, but that isn't new - a variety of top KDs have been doing that for ages for other purposes (eg keeping prov nw low to get better gains on randoms).
Except we are undertrained by top war standards because we did not have a week to stock gold and pump. We emerged from war into this. The reason we were undertrained is that we did not have time to do a proper soldier pump. So to say that was intentional is laughable. The distribution is the best we could do with the time we had.
"having fun warring when you have whoring and number 1 as a goal is totally pointless..." - Korp
"while I heart shiester when we both play serious and are in the same kingdom, I hate shiester on the forums and pretty much disagree with everything he says. Even he knows this." - Flogger asking me out on a date
The devs have made a decision to kill competitive utopia and have thereby killed my interest with it.
My final paragraph wasn't intended as an accusation. Even if (hypothetically then) it was intentional, I think it's hard to describe 'managing' nw as abuse at this point because it is / has been so common and has effectively been normalised. As someone who doesn't play in the top but ends up interacting with them when my KD gets randomed, it is personally annoying and I'd like to change mechanics so it's not viable to stock tons of soldiers OOW, but even I wouldn't describe it as abuse of the mechanics - just more silly mechanics.
The difference is we spend our time crowning and winning and have been more successful at it than any other kingdom in modern utopia. Whereas you spend your time trying to chart shape and block others. Something to think about it.
When the logs from diplo with you/flogger we’re pasted in LS channel asking to be gifted a free backdoor crown shot, I said “no” with a relish and that was that.
Where is the revenge that’s bappening here? I didn’t realize revenge was you being smaller/in a worse position all age and afraid to war. That’s good revenge, please keep it up every age. Though it happens naturally.
The other thing I find really funny / surprising / amazing is that you and Sheister actually think BB is entitled to crown this age. I still don’t understand why.
Last edited by Proteus; 19-01-2018 at 11:20.
Drink your morning coffee before posting proteus. Then go find the post where I say BB is entitled to crown.
Last edited by Sheister; 19-01-2018 at 12:09.
"having fun warring when you have whoring and number 1 as a goal is totally pointless..." - Korp
"while I heart shiester when we both play serious and are in the same kingdom, I hate shiester on the forums and pretty much disagree with everything he says. Even he knows this." - Flogger asking me out on a date
The devs have made a decision to kill competitive utopia and have thereby killed my interest with it.
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