They can steal them and use them on attack.
Is this intended?
They can steal them and use them on attack.
Is this intended?
proof?
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They can test that themselves.
I can copy Munkbot text if they wish.
Province was an avian rogue that tested it out. Stole horses, attacked, then lost 5 on an attack.
Im pretty sure theyve always been able to steal them and use on an attack. They cant build stables and train them, nor house them longer than the tick during which they stole them if i remember correctly
Player History
-Returned in Age 55: "Happy Grasslands" Undead Cleric in WE KC (M)
-Age 56: "Cortez the Killer" Elf Mystic in WE KC (M)
-Age 57 1st Half: "KC March of the Penguins" Avian Warrior in WE KC (M)
-Age 57 2nd Half: "Granny Smith" Halfling Rogue in TFC
-Age 58: "A Horse With No Name - America" Halfling Rogue in HRS Partial (S)
-Age 59 1st Half: "Birthday Cake Remix" Avian Cleric in HRS
-Age 59 2nd Half: "Birthday Cake Remix" Avian Cleric in AC (S)
-Age 60 1st Half: "Beaver" Elf Mystic in AC (M)
-Age 60 2nd Half: "I don t want" Undead Tactician in Allstars
-Age 61: "trizzle my wizzle" Undead Tactician in Allstars
-Age 62: "Tras19 is amazed by midgets" Dwarf Sage in Beastblood (CROWN x 2)
-Age 63 yr 1-12: "To learn his Elfabet" Avian Merchant in Beastblood
-Age 63 yr 12-14: "Thanks for the death Flogger" Orc Tactician in Beastblood
-Age 64 yr 1-6: "Lust and Thrust" Halfling Rogue in PewPew
-Age 65: "back yet again" Elf Merchant in Old Skool (M)
-Return again in Age 67: "Whimsyton" Elf Merchant in the ghetto
-Age 68 1st Half: "This Girl is on Shire" Halfling Rogue in The Shirish Mafia (M)
-Return Yet Again in Age 76 2nd Half: "Happy Grasslands" Dark Elf Paladin in BOL
-Age 77: "?" Human Sage in ? (M)
Noteworthy Achievments
*** Age 62: Books of War ... KD Land Crown and KD NW Crown Winner with Beastblood ***
*** Was a member of The Faery Circle, yet have never played Faery ***
*** Have never had a province die except once when I let Flogger province sit me for 24 hours in a war ***
Bolding the key part
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...4#post15466414
Races
Avian
Bonuses
-25% Attack travel time
+40% Birth Rate
+25% Specialist Credits from Attacks
Penalties
Cannot Use War Horses/Stables
Spell book: Fanaticism and Greater Protection
Elite: Offense: 8 Defense: 2 Networth: 8.5 Cost: 850
Soldiers: Offense: 1 Defense: 1
It should say "build" instead of "use"
Player History
-Returned in Age 55: "Happy Grasslands" Undead Cleric in WE KC (M)
-Age 56: "Cortez the Killer" Elf Mystic in WE KC (M)
-Age 57 1st Half: "KC March of the Penguins" Avian Warrior in WE KC (M)
-Age 57 2nd Half: "Granny Smith" Halfling Rogue in TFC
-Age 58: "A Horse With No Name - America" Halfling Rogue in HRS Partial (S)
-Age 59 1st Half: "Birthday Cake Remix" Avian Cleric in HRS
-Age 59 2nd Half: "Birthday Cake Remix" Avian Cleric in AC (S)
-Age 60 1st Half: "Beaver" Elf Mystic in AC (M)
-Age 60 2nd Half: "I don t want" Undead Tactician in Allstars
-Age 61: "trizzle my wizzle" Undead Tactician in Allstars
-Age 62: "Tras19 is amazed by midgets" Dwarf Sage in Beastblood (CROWN x 2)
-Age 63 yr 1-12: "To learn his Elfabet" Avian Merchant in Beastblood
-Age 63 yr 12-14: "Thanks for the death Flogger" Orc Tactician in Beastblood
-Age 64 yr 1-6: "Lust and Thrust" Halfling Rogue in PewPew
-Age 65: "back yet again" Elf Merchant in Old Skool (M)
-Return again in Age 67: "Whimsyton" Elf Merchant in the ghetto
-Age 68 1st Half: "This Girl is on Shire" Halfling Rogue in The Shirish Mafia (M)
-Return Yet Again in Age 76 2nd Half: "Happy Grasslands" Dark Elf Paladin in BOL
-Age 77: "?" Human Sage in ? (M)
Noteworthy Achievments
*** Age 62: Books of War ... KD Land Crown and KD NW Crown Winner with Beastblood ***
*** Was a member of The Faery Circle, yet have never played Faery ***
*** Have never had a province die except once when I let Flogger province sit me for 24 hours in a war ***
I've heard from a couple people that they don't have that op available to them as an avian.
They used to be able to, but there was a change that hasn't been overridden to prevent them from having access to Steal Warhorses.
EDIT: or was it from using what they stole? Either way they can't use them anymore.
I imagine this is a bug specific to avian/rogue, if it even exists. Sometimes I forget which race I'm playing, it happens.
I'd have to agree, the Avian code should prevent war horses from showing up in the "War Room" tab regardless of how many you have. I think it's fine for all avian's to be able to steal horses since it's a possible strategy to lower an enemies offense. But they should not be able to use them to attack.
So, Last age we had 4 avian Rogues in our kd. All 4 could steal horses because "Rogues" have access to all thievery operations. Non rogue avians could not steal war horses. Once I stole war horses, I could use them on all attacks. IN war I would have many thousand and as long as I stayed army in and out, they remained the same as any prov with horses and no stable.
My interpretation of the exploit is as per above. All Avians can use war horses(No restriction in the war screen only for a lack of horses), but the limiting factor was that normal avian could not steal them. The rogue personality trait over ruled that sole restriction.
The game rules for last age and this age read the same. I assume the exploit remains.
Last age there were 8 on the server. I was interested in using this again, but we went in a different direction. Avian Rogue in was has very good staying power and was a lot of fun It was also a total fluke that we picked up on it. Our goal was to be rogue heavy and being allowed to use war horses a lucky bonus, but also not in keeping with the spirit of Avians. Frankly, I'm surprised to wait this long before seeing anyone post about it.
Last edited by Naimadally; 30-07-2018 at 22:32.
From the changes post..
Penalties
Cannot Use War Horses/Stables
From the lobby page..
Penalties:
Can't use Stables
Seems like either a manner of poor communication or poor coding. I recall in the past someone asking about avian being able to use horses and an admin changing the wording to include horses/stables. Problem seems to be that their solution on the coding side was just to make "Steal War Horses" not available to avians. If it's not possible to have Avian not use horses in the coding I would think they would simply change the value on avian horses to 0/0.
So, just like Undead/Rogue got all the ops.
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