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    Quote Originally Posted by handofthrawn View Post
    Let's tackle water boarding first. Water boarding is not torture by definition, because it does not cause lasting physical damage. Now some people argue it causes emotional damage. But same people will argue putting someone In prison does the same thing. My guess you voted for Obama. Let me tell you about what he has done. Blown up innocent women and children at birthday parties, hospitals and schools. Why has this happened, well they claim bad intelligence. Maybe water boarding the bad guys might have prevented those tragedies. Next deporting illegal immigrants is just following the laws on the books. Which any president should do, which is follow the law. Lastly your last argument is just silliness and won't waste my time answering something that just doesn't matter.
    Electric shock can be done without lasting damage. Not sure what lasting damage water torture does. Have yet to see the technique called anything but "water torture" or "Chinese water torture". Mock executions certainly do not cause "lasting damage" unless you include "emotional damage". Waterboarding actually can do lasting physical damage.

    Some horrible crap is fundamentally different from other horrible crap. I still have the option of voting in the USA. If doing horrible things to people is one of the planks in his/her platform then I will vote against that candidate. Ivan the terrible may have boiled peoples skin off for amusement. The Romans crucified people. The inquisition ... I do not intend to vote for any of them either.

    The CIA drone program looks a lot like terrorism to me. Some people like to argue that terrorism has a definition and the U.S. government is excluded from that definition. However, there are people who are living in fear of sudden nasty violence. It is a bad thing. I do not think the world would be a better place if we waterboarded government employees. I think ending their employment is a good step. Make them compete for minimum wage jobs in our suck economy. We could just remove the program funding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pathetic sheep View Post
    Electric shock can be done
    you know you just reminded of a story about Lee Atwater ;)
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    Step 1: Commit blatant war crimes for the lulz
    Step 2: ????
    Step 3: Victory.

    ...and this is going to happen. I dread.
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