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    I'm not going to rehash my argument with persian from 5 days ago (see power rankings thread) but as a fairy heretic I would only aim to op the attacker core. so early game you barely need 2wpa 2tpa and late game 4-4 is good enough to op most cores, I might go a little higher when I feel pretty safe I won't be chained. Fairies military is strong this round and I will be running 1:1 ospec elite.

    I draft as deep as I can, and as I do I need to run more homes going into war and don't usually build anymore after war starts, use them to keep peasants as high as I can LL a few acres at the start, attack out, and kidnap as needed.

    sidenote; persians fairy nightmares 90% on the core to my maybe 60-70%ish success, but he gives up 2 full unique's a day, and neither fairy will be attacked. So its really up to you for that tradeoff.

    MERGED

    Just want to add, I do not like the guild bonuses to t/m's personalities. The only reason t/m's didn't need to play from the bottom of the kingdom before was that they needed to take land earlier than everyone so they could pump wizards faster than everyone. Now with these insane guild bonuses those specs get (which are more powerful with just the guild bonus, than other personalities) there is no reason to play persian's fairy at the top of the kingdom. It does the same amount of damage with ops using the lowest NW in your kingdom as it does with the most NW, it makes sense to trim the fat for war as we all pick wars based off KD NW, and make them play from the smallest size now.

    Just adding this because I know persian probably plays his non-attacking t/m' s at the top of his kingdom still and it makes no sense these days.
    Last edited by Persain; 23-07-2018 at 04:46. Reason: stop double posting

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    Persain's numbers look fine to me although I think they are definitely on the higher end of what people manage to pull off. ie I have no doubt that Persain and Persain's KD does it, and plenty others, but for most players it wouldn't be very common to come across a feary heretic with numbers that good. I often see more peasants and less wizz than Parsain has for late age (to be clear, i am not saying it is better - it isn't IMO - but you asked for "typical").


    Just want to add, I do not like the guild bonuses to t/m's personalities. The only reason t/m's didn't need to play from the bottom of the kingdom before was that they needed to take land earlier than everyone so they could pump wizards faster than everyone. Now with these insane guild bonuses those specs get (which are more powerful with just the guild bonus, than other personalities) there is no reason to play persian's fairy at the top of the kingdom. It does the same amount of damage with ops using the lowest NW in your kingdom as it does with the most NW, it makes sense to trim the fat for war as we all pick wars based off KD NW, and make them play from the smallest size now.

    Just adding this because I know persian probably plays his non-attacking t/m' s at the top of his kingdom still and it makes no sense these days.
    I know Strato knows this but for the benefit of other people reading the thread, that wasn't the only (or even main?) reason people put t/ms at the top of land. It is to make it easier to make them unbreakable, which is still valid now.
    Last edited by Chris121; 25-07-2018 at 09:34. Reason: fixing qoute html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganga View Post
    I'm not going to rehash my argument with persian from 5 days ago (see power rankings thread) but as a fairy heretic I would only aim to op the attacker core. so early game you barely need 2wpa 2tpa and late game 4-4 is good enough to op most cores, I might go a little higher when I feel pretty safe I won't be chained. Fairies military is strong this round and I will be running 1:1 ospec elite.

    I draft as deep as I can, and as I do I need to run more homes going into war and don't usually build anymore after war starts, use them to keep peasants as high as I can LL a few acres at the start, attack out, and kidnap as needed.

    sidenote; persians fairy nightmares 90% on the core to my maybe 60-70%ish success, but he gives up 2 full unique's a day, and neither fairy will be attacked. So its really up to you for that tradeoff.

    MERGED

    Just want to add, I do not like the guild bonuses to t/m's personalities. The only reason t/m's didn't need to play from the bottom of the kingdom before was that they needed to take land earlier than everyone so they could pump wizards faster than everyone. Now with these insane guild bonuses those specs get (which are more powerful with just the guild bonus, than other personalities) there is no reason to play persian's fairy at the top of the kingdom. It does the same amount of damage with ops using the lowest NW in your kingdom as it does with the most NW, it makes sense to trim the fat for war as we all pick wars based off KD NW, and make them play from the smallest size now.

    Just adding this because I know persian probably plays his non-attacking t/m' s at the top of his kingdom still and it makes no sense these days.
    You obviously don't know this game or have not been playing it at a higher level.
    You may have gotten away with bullying noobs or ghetto kds who lack planning and organization but you will not beat a competent warring kd with that nonsense.

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    Strategy person talking again

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganga View Post
    Spoken like a guy who thinks he's good because he plays in a top kingdom.......good because your kingdom probably hits 2x the unique attacks of the kingdoms you war and you think you know strategy. ..... you don't need strategy to be a 'top' kingdom, you only need 25 players who can attack 2x a day.
    You may need 25 people to compete in the top but theres is a huge difference between bad and good numbers. The numbers i suggested above or summarized nicely here

    Quote Originally Posted by elmoheadbutt View Post
    If you are heretic, you are only looking to ops attackers and trad/raze small targets so I would:

    4.5 wpa
    4.5 tpa
    5.5 ppa
    The rest goes to defense (elites if you can afford it, dspecs if you can't).
    are very much needed if you want to be a "good" feary. I have an ex-player i'd put in the top 5 in the game (better than me at solo prov management by a fair bit) who can literally solo carry a gheto where people aren't attacking x2 a day. he would NEVER run something like

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganga View Post
    you barely need 2wpa 2tpa and late game 4-4 is good enough to op most cores, .
    because its simply bad advise. To that end i mean i've seen him war in a kd of 12 v 14 where it was more like 4 v 7 active people in each kd and he was able to take the 4 people and pull off a win simply because he had his prov built right. If he were here and in running in a ghetto he would recommend something much more in line with my own numbers ore elmoheadbutts. being a feary isnt just about op-ing the enemy.

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