Does an A/T need WTs?

[peteyb22]

What's a good enough raw tpa to not use watch towers?

Or is the fact that you're an A/T imply that you have good enough theif defense?

[Palem]

tpa is tpa.

So the fact that you're an A/T means you have thief defense. A lot of it if you're running your A/T right.

[peteyb22]

ok, good that's what i tought. just trying to work out a good build strat

[fadswaffer]

As a heavy attacker you may want to run some, but that's about it

[inventio]

3 raw TPA would warrant WTs if you're against halflings, or really good thieves in general.

Most good A/ts run 4+ raw end-age, and WTs would be a waste in that case.

[Hooah]

i'd say if you are A/T thief use the TDs instead of WTs to increase TPA and you can contribute to thief ops, if you are heavy attacker though, go with some WTs

[Freeway]

TPA, which is modded by TDs, is a better defense than relying on WT.

[Realest]

3 raw TPA would warrant WTs if you're against halflings, or really good thieves in general.

Most good A/ts run 4+ raw end-age, and WTs would be a waste in that case.

best answer, rest are bad answers.

[Pestermenot]

best answer, rest are bad answers.

I agree. Think about it overnight.

[peteyb22]

Thanks, I was going to run TDs regardless. So with a raw 4 tpa and aiming for say... 45 dpa army out and 70 opa, what kind of draft rate should I run?

[Pestermenot]

Enough to keep your economy going when you reach it. Don't forget housing science, it will be your friend.

[Ordray]

Thanks, I was going to run TDs regardless. So with a raw 4 tpa and aiming for say... 45 dpa army out and 70 opa, what kind of draft rate should I run?

What race/personality are you going with? Humans make a good A/Ts this age, but so do halfers. I guess that you could do undead/rogue as a decent A/T as well, but science is a problem for them.

Humans would have a lower draft for the 4/45/70 that you're aiming for, but the exact % depends on the amount of homes that you use (if any,) population science, and TGs/forts used (unless you're aiming for raw numbers there.)

[inventio]

best answer, rest are bad answers.

Did I just get a compliment from Realest? Woohoo.

Petey, it's somewhat subject to ESID (each situation is different) but since you're gonna be in my kd, I can give some pointers once the province actually exists.

[peteyb22]

haha, excellent. i just remember when i used to play i always had problems with my BE and economy despite running 10% homes, and usually having 10% housing sci and 10% be sci. But I think i was running like 70% draft rate (at least)

[nongenericangel]

AT needs to run TD's, not WT's. I've done both this age and TD's works better. At least for a gnome warrior they did....