To the Game Admins

[realm of ding dong]

There is? War proposals were introduced as a game mechanic only last age. Would love to have a look at some of these precedents.

Forget about precedence for a second. You dont NEED to be a historian of the game. Here, I quote, from the official game rules: "Players attempting to manipulate rules and quirks of the game in ways obviously not intended may be subject to deletion.

It should be very clear to any thinking person that your war was in DIRECT VIOLATION of the game rules. I'm not sure exactly how to spell out what constitutes a fake war other than by quoting you the rules, which are unambiguous and unequivocal.

Or from the Game wiki, in case you are a total moron and the game rules weren't clear enough.

"Any informal or formal agreements made between kingdoms in regards to warring must abide by the Code of Conduct. Violations may cause the war to be deemed a Fake War. Fake Wars are subject to actions by the game operators. As the determination for a Fake War is made on a case-by-case basis by the game operators, the exact punishment may vary.
Ways a war can be faked (Please note, this is just an idea and not a comprehensive list):
Requesting specific people be targeted by opposing kingdom or accepting to action a request from the opposing monarch.
Non-aggression pact during war of any duration and at any time.
Attempts to manipulate war-win rankings using friends to initiate multiple wars.
Agreement to trading acres for a war win.
"Ending" a war before minimum war duration."

It couldn't be any more BLINDINGLY obvious that your specific war, as you explain it, INCONTROVERTIBLY failed to "abide by the Code of Conduct."

[realm of ding dong]

Any informal or formal agreements.

I really think this is what trips most people up. People, it doesn't MATTER if it's formal OR informal. Some people think if they don't get the agreement NOTARIZED or if they don't print it on fancy stationery then somehow it's "OK" to make the agreement. NOT the case. READ THE RULES PEOPLE.

[emerix]

I really think this is what trips most people up. People, it doesn't MATTER if it's formal OR informal. Some people think if they don't get the agreement NOTARIZED or if they don't print it on fancy stationery then somehow it's "OK" to make the agreement. NOT the case. READ THE RULES PEOPLE.

There were no agreements!! Nothing! We refused to agree to anything!!

edit: there was NO communication prior to acceptance of 1:9's proposal.

there was communication but NO AGREEMENT following the declaration of war.

[Korp]

But from the sound of it you didnt get punished at all, you should be happy. A war that is fake cant be allowed to continue even if its just fake from one side. True you got sorta indirectly "punished" but there is no other feasiable option.

[emerix]

But from the sound of it you didnt get punished at all, you should be happy. A war that is fake cant be allowed to continue even if its just fake from one side. True you got sorta indirectly "punished" but there is no other feasiable option.

Thank you Korp. Not trying to get the admins to apologise unconditionally or even acknowledge they made a mistake. The whole point of this post was to try and get the admins feedback about future actions to build a case for my kd mates to stay in the game.

Right now, it feels like the admins took 1 minute and decided "oh well" without enquiring further or even getting our views on this. Would it be so hard to message our monarch and stew to get their side of the story before deciding what is a suitable action to take?

[emerix]

Forget about precedence for a second. You dont NEED to be a historian of the game. Here, I quote, from the official game rules: "Players attempting to manipulate rules and quirks of the game in ways obviously not intended may be subject to deletion.

It should be very clear to any thinking person that your war was in DIRECT VIOLATION of the game rules. I'm not sure exactly how to spell out what constitutes a fake war other than by quoting you the rules, which are unambiguous and unequivocal.

Or from the Game wiki, in case you are a total moron and the game rules weren't clear enough.

"Any informal or formal agreements made between kingdoms in regards to warring must abide by the Code of Conduct. Violations may cause the war to be deemed a Fake War. Fake Wars are subject to actions by the game operators. As the determination for a Fake War is made on a case-by-case basis by the game operators, the exact punishment may vary.
Ways a war can be faked (Please note, this is just an idea and not a comprehensive list):
Requesting specific people be targeted by opposing kingdom or accepting to action a request from the opposing monarch.
Non-aggression pact during war of any duration and at any time.
Attempts to manipulate war-win rankings using friends to initiate multiple wars.
Agreement to trading acres for a war win.
"Ending" a war before minimum war duration."

It couldn't be any more BLINDINGLY obvious that your specific war, as you explain it, INCONTROVERTIBLY failed to "abide by the Code of Conduct."

See this line in my post:-

"We had no prior messages or arrangements with anyone in 1:9. They sent us a war proposal and we accepted. WAR!"

No manipulation, no pre-arrangements, no informal agreements, no formal agreements. If anything it was 1:9 that wanted us to:-

1] target specific provs only; and/or
2] stop attacks/ops in exchange for a guaranteed min time withdrawal;

to which we replied that "we're sorry but we cannot agree because that would be a fake war but we have sympathy for your situation so if an admin says its ok for us to back off til min time, we'll back off."

So, how was our war in DIRECT VIOLATION of the game rules as you so eloquently put it?