If you're a very wealthy white man you should definitely vote for Trump.
If you're a very wealthy white man you should definitely vote for Trump.
More lies by the media he is the only republican running that said he would not cut any welfare program or social security. He also will implement tariffs to keep factory s here. Last I checked rich people don't work in factorys or collect welfare. Hence why he is blasted by everyone. They are terrified of Trump because there free ride as super rich people will be over. He also wants to tax stock traders too. Even fox news hates him. Lol
If he won't cut any welfare programs then why would their "free ride" be ending?
Also, that's certainly not a lie. Wealthy white men should absolutely vote for Donald Trump.
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I don't watch bought and paid for news. I watch actual interviews and speeches. He put out a tax plan for the world to see where he would tax wall street. Second he said his own policies would hurt him financially. Third he wouldn't need to cut welfare programs due to the influx of wealth from tax plans and oil revenue from the middle east. Media is bought and paid for stop listening to them. Lol actually listen to what the man has to say from his own mouth or twitter account haha.
Live news comments I have recently seen from trump.
-I will waterboard people.
-We will have friendly deportations.
-Thousands of Muslims in New Jersey celebrated September 11 2001.
To be honest I have also seen a comment from Trump that sounded reasonable and showed some insight. If a candidate says (s)he wants to torture and/or deport my born-in-the-USA neighbors then I cannot give him/her my vote.
Let's tackle water boarding first. Water boarding is not torture by definition, because it does not cause lasting physical damage. Now some people argue it causes emotional damage. But same people will argue putting someone In prison does the same thing. My guess you voted for Obama. Let me tell you about what he has done. Blown up innocent women and children at birthday parties, hospitals and schools. Why has this happened, well they claim bad intelligence. Maybe water boarding the bad guys might have prevented those tragedies. Next deporting illegal immigrants is just following the laws on the books. Which any president should do, which is follow the law. Lastly your last argument is just silliness and won't waste my time answering something that just doesn't matter.
all lies again
First of all it is torture! So yeah that does mean that under Bush and even under Obama (as it continued) U.S. broke Geneva convention!
Second it can definitely cause long lasting physical damage. PTSS can be received as a result of waterboarding and that is physical! It includes catatonia which is physical! It has an over-release of neuro-transmitters which again is physical!
You handofthrawn are a liar! Really Shut the F up Already! I will say it to you again and again. LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!
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Electric shock can be done without lasting damage. Not sure what lasting damage water torture does. Have yet to see the technique called anything but "water torture" or "Chinese water torture". Mock executions certainly do not cause "lasting damage" unless you include "emotional damage". Waterboarding actually can do lasting physical damage.
Some horrible crap is fundamentally different from other horrible crap. I still have the option of voting in the USA. If doing horrible things to people is one of the planks in his/her platform then I will vote against that candidate. Ivan the terrible may have boiled peoples skin off for amusement. The Romans crucified people. The inquisition ... I do not intend to vote for any of them either.
The CIA drone program looks a lot like terrorism to me. Some people like to argue that terrorism has a definition and the U.S. government is excluded from that definition. However, there are people who are living in fear of sudden nasty violence. It is a bad thing. I do not think the world would be a better place if we waterboarded government employees. I think ending their employment is a good step. Make them compete for minimum wage jobs in our suck economy. We could just remove the program funding.
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The United Nations Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, which is currently in force since June 26, 1987, provides a broad definition of torture.
Article 1.1 of the UN Convention Against Torture reads:
For the purpose of this Convention, the term "torture" means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him, or a third person, information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in, or incidental to, lawful sanctions.
That you can't even use google is almost enough to discount you as being unworthy of being listened too when debating facts and cross referencing, but the rest of the rubbish you've been spouting about "paid off media" (yes I'm aware of media bias) then talking about reading Trumps Twitter to get the real facts, when things quoted were said live by Trump, just seals the deal.
that about the ties was an interview, you ignoramus...
or was that insult not enough Trump for you? ;)
you need to hear both sides of the story, if you only listen to Trump alone, you might aswell be living in thirties Germany and vote for the man with the tiny mustache
yeah you know who ;)
and before you bring up the tax plan, please read the fine details like an economist would, because you would see it benefits his family immensely ;) and his socalled friends ;) or should I say cronies for lack of a better word ;)
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