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    Quote Originally Posted by handofthrawn View Post
    Michael Flynn served and broke the law under Obama. Not Donald Trump and the security clearance was given by Obama administration Fyi.
    Yes he did, what's your point? My point is that Flynn was in line for an even higher security clearance than he had previously held and as such he was supposed to fill out and send in a federal form stating any ties to foreign governments. Either he didn't and the Short Fingered Vulgarian hired him anyway, or he lied on those forms as well. The White House hasn't released those documents at this time so we don't really know which is the case, although if he had lied on them they would have no doubt been in a rush to publish them because that would pout them off the hook... So the silence speaks volumes

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    Yes, Hillary Clinton broke the law, their is no exception under the law stating that being, dumb, irresponsible or not knowing the law excludes you from being liable. You don't need criminal intent when it comes to storing or sharing classified material either.Their are soldiers in jail right now for taking selfies in front or near something classified. Not serving month or two month jail time but multiple year sentences.
    So why has there been no prosecution then? She wasn't given amnesty by Obama before he got out of office and it was one of the Liar in Chief's election promises to "put her behind bars". If they really have sufficient evidence to support inditing Hillary then why isn't the Tangerine in Chief having her prosecuted?
    The crime that she might be accused of is: "to knowingly or through gross negligence disclose classified information to someone not authorized to receive it". And it hasn't been proven that the information was ever disclosed to somebody who didn't have the proper security clearances, which is required. So if they can ever prove that then they can put her in jail because the handling was obviously either knowingly or grossly negligent.
    Possibly she cleaned out any incriminating information really well, or it's also possible that she never disclosed classified information to someone not authorized to receive it.

    As for those soldiers, they were prosecuted under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is generally much much harsher with these things because the military requires a much higher standards from their employees than does civilian laws. It could also be proven that they had released that information to somebody who hadn't been cleared to receive it. Hillary is not nor she ever(to my knowledge) been a member of the United States Armed Forces and therefore she's not subject to the UCMJ and as such she has to be prosecuted under federal law.

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    Finally I am glad the emails got released to show how corrupt the Democrats really Where. God bless Russains if they where behind it. Democrat party was exposed for being run by racist, scum bags who sold nothing but lies and bull****. Even they admit it and fired Everyone. Lol
    It's good to know that you support a foreign state committing crimes against US citizens... Not even the Republicans in the Senate or the House goes quite that far, probably because they realize the implications which you clearly does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elldallan View Post
    Yes he did, what's your point? My point is that Flynn was in line for an even higher security clearance than he had previously held and as such he was supposed to fill out and send in a federal form stating any ties to foreign governments. Either he didn't and the Short Fingered Vulgarian hired him anyway, or he lied on those forms as well. The White House hasn't released those documents at this time so we don't really know which is the case, although if he had lied on them they would have no doubt been in a rush to publish them because that would pout them off the hook... So the silence speaks volumes


    So why has there been no prosecution then? She wasn't given amnesty by Obama before he got out of office and it was one of the Liar in Chief's election promises to "put her behind bars". If they really have sufficient evidence to support inditing Hillary then why isn't the Tangerine in Chief having her prosecuted?
    The crime that she might be accused of is: "to knowingly or through gross negligence disclose classified information to someone not authorized to receive it". And it hasn't been proven that the information was ever disclosed to somebody who didn't have the proper security clearances, which is required. So if they can ever prove that then they can put her in jail because the handling was obviously either knowingly or grossly negligent.
    Possibly she cleaned out any incriminating information really well, or it's also possible that she never disclosed classified information to someone not authorized to receive it.

    As for those soldiers, they were prosecuted under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is generally much much harsher with these things because the military requires a much higher standards from their employees than does civilian laws. It could also be proven that they had released that information to somebody who hadn't been cleared to receive it. Hillary is not nor she ever(to my knowledge) been a member of the United States Armed Forces and therefore she's not subject to the UCMJ and as such she has to be prosecuted under federal law.

    It's good to know that you support a foreign state committing crimes against US citizens... Not even the Republicans in the Senate or the House goes quite that far, probably because they realize the implications which you clearly does not.
    So Obama failed to police Flynn but Trump did and fired Flynn. Maybe if Obama administration was paying closer attention it could have saved Trump the hassle of having to deal with it.

    Clinton can still have charges brought against her. Its possible thats the reason they fired Comey because they where doing a investigation into Clinton and found wrong doing on Comey part. No Civilions are held to the same standards as military personal when it comes to storing and sending classified material. Only difference is where they are put in prison because military prison hard labor is still allowed.

    Russia didn't actually interfere at all in the election. All they did was released emails that members of the DNC actually wrote. Maybe if the DNC wouldn't have fixed the primaries, insulted Bernie Sanders supports, given Hillary all the questions ahead of time. Insulted multiple race's and religion's. Your argument is like blaming the guy for video taping the crime for the actual crime that was committed. Russia didn't make the DNC, be racist, cheating bigots, that fixed there primaries. They just shined a light on the fact of what they truly Where.;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by handofthrawn View Post
    Russia didn't actually interfere at all in the election.
    This is false. Both bipartisan investigations in the house and Senate as well as the FBI openly say that Russia interfered with our election.

    The only questions are if those interferences had an impact on the outcome of the election (which is something no one will be able to determine) and if the Trump campaign knowingly colluded with them (which is being investigated).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    This is false. Both bipartisan investigations in the house and Senate as well as the FBI openly say that Russia interfered with our election.

    The only questions are if those interferences had an impact on the outcome of the election (which is something no one will be able to determine) and if the Trump campaign knowingly colluded with them (which is being investigated).
    I guess it depends on what you consider interference. To me releasing emails that are legit and not altered in anyway to the public is not interference to me. How about this the DNC should stop being corrupt racist politicians rigging their primaries. Yet you dwell on how we got the emails. Just seems ridicules all together honestly. What's even dumber is if Democrats did succeed at impeachment you would end up with Pence as president. Go from one of the most liberal Republicans ever to hold office to the most hardcore right President in Pence. That's almost as dumb as Democrats demanding Trump fire Comey and when he does they call it a cover up. I guess their is no end to the stupidity of Democratic lawmakers.

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    I won't be responding to any of that, but you can look forward to me correcting the blatantly false information you try to propagate on these forums.

    Good day comrade.

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