If there's any kds in the 9 mil nw range that want to help me out with douchebags that like to hit into smaller kds hostiles, message me.
I haven't had a Hostile all age that was clean and I'm really sick of it.
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If there's any kds in the 9 mil nw range that want to help me out with douchebags that like to hit into smaller kds hostiles, message me.
I haven't had a Hostile all age that was clean and I'm really sick of it.
I always hit into hostiles because people leave hostile tags up long after a hostile fizzle out.
If there were some sort of official message that appeared then maybe I'd take it a bit more seriously.
So basically you're too lazy to grab a snatch news and would rather be a scumbag taking advantage of other people's fights.
Grab a SN if you think it's fizzled. Don't just blindly. The ghetto likes to pride themselves on how they don't play like the top and powerplay and garbage like that. Yea, bull****.
Really looks like it's fizzled...
April 1 of YR5 - April 20 of YR5
19 hours of conflict
Total Attacks Made: 17 (+1664 acres)
Total Attacks Suffered: 20 (-1167 acres)
Net Exchange: +497 acres
Our Kingdom: (Us) +497 acres (17/20) [15]
Enemy Kingdom: (Enemy) -1012 acres (16/17) [9]
Enemy Kingdom: (Douchebags) +378 acres (3/0) [2]
Enemy Kingdom: (Random Ghetto Scum) +137 acres (1/0) []
a 10 thief snatch news would see 62 hits in the last 24 hours.... Nothing's fizzed out here, in fact its an arranged war.
The fact that this KD is over double and repeatedly hitting into an hostile is pitiful.
And yes, i've suggested an 'official mechanism' for optional hostile tags before in the suggestion forums, it didnt get much traction.
@Palem - they are in the 10m range.
I thought target sharing wasn't allowed :(
Awesome, more hits from (Douchebags)
@Prot - Douchebags isnt a location :P
Harsh words!Quote:
Originally Posted by DHaran
I wouldn't say taking advantage. I would usually only make a single plunder if I found one. This situation is a bit different, multitapping knowingly into a hostile is definitely a scumbag move.
Pretty frustrating, as it makes perfect sense. It stops forcing people to waste stealth - it is hard enough finding decent targets as it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spahrep
I'm not Target sharing. If I was everyone who read this would know who to hit ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by prot
In regards to an actual forum discussion, when we've tagged as hostile for our upcoming wars (which I don't do anymore thanks to idiots that think hitting into hostiles is a great way to get free acres) we've actually received more outside hits immediately after tagging. Seriously, what happened to common courtesy? Why are ghettos so eager to snag acres when they claim they're not trying to whore? These things bother me.
If you think thats bad im getting sick of OOW hits. With the stupid way the target finder is setup to include kds at war my kd has eaten between 6-8 hits into our wars so far this age because stupid ghettoes cant even look at our kd page to see we're in war.
All this depression over 4 hits, seems a bit over the top if you ask me on your behalf Palem. They hit your elves increasing their WPA's & TPA's. They actually probably did you a favor more than anything.
LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by xX NBK Xx
But yeah, people tend to target hostile tags on purpose. Better off not tagging.
Hmm, I didn't know our two biggest undead provs were actually elves. Anymore insight for me NBK?
And I'm not angry about 4 hits. I'm angry about the vast amount of hits we've eaten all age the moment we actually get into a hostile. Unlike all the other blowhards on these boards that will spend all day complaining, I plan on doing something about it.
ahh I see what you mean your referring to the random ghetto scum and not the douche bags. My bad on that note. Apologies.
Are you ignorant or delusional? Not one of our elves were hit by outside hits. Get your facts straight.
I like angry Palem.
I'm joking with you Palem, In all honesty I think you should be petitioning for the removal of the target finder. People using phones from work rarely have the time to check papers, and having low nwpa provinces listed there with no kingdom name assigned signalling their hostile status does create a problem. I'm sure you would find there was no malice intended or else they would of hit you quite a few more times. I'm just saying there could be a simple explanation and not purposeful reason for them hitting you. One could assume this could be the factor in all the previous 'outside" attack you suffered this age or at least a great portion of them.
ha! good luck with that!Quote:
Originally Posted by xX NBK Xx
When people are looking for a decent target to hit, do you really think they are going to snatch news on every target and then take a SoT? Sometimes you drain all your stealth just to find a single decent plunder target... taking SoT + SN will drop the amount you can take in 1/2.
If they are a kd that looks to be purposefully hitting into a hostile then that is lame... but sometimes there is an honest mistake of someone just trying to find a target and not look at news.
I doubt very much KDs currently around 10M nw use the target finder and are oblivious to kingdom tags....
I have to agree with Spah. Larger kingdoms don't use the ingame target finder and certainly do pay attention to tags. So...... yeah they are just idiots.
Time to stop tagging Hostile obviously. Its accomplishing the exact opposite of what you want it to.
" Palems KD Hostile only if your a ghetto. (XX:XX) "
:D
I rarely bother checking news on tagged kd's when stealing these days. Stealth is precious and tags are abused constantly. Some kd's I observed keeping tags for weeks at a time deliberatly.
Aren't they the same Douchebags who farmed their only ww this age? They have a habit of hitting into hostiles.
so something ive been saying for ages that got pooped on by the person creating the thread - nice when it happens to your kingdom hey.
ITS NOT HARD TO GET A SNATCH NEWS BEFORE HITTING!
If you talking about 'Disturbed' kd, i can confirm they hitted into our hostiles alot aswell.
Hope to return the favor soon :)
yea, you like to keep track when kds leave eowcf, and plunder/rob, nothing wrong ofc, just damn annoying :DQuote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
I'm going to have to agree with Araqiel here.Quote:
Originally Posted by DHaran
If SN was a 1% op of similar difficulty to SoT then yes I probably would spare stealth for a try or two but as things stand now it requires a non trivial amount of a very finite resource with multiple applications, I have better things to spend my stealth on.
The hostile tag is abused more often than not so while I don't intentionally target somebody's hostile neither do I go out of my way to avoid it, it's too much of a hassle to just find out that they're faketagging which is what it comes down to most of the time.
Can't complain, but I still do - ;-) Thanks for bringing attention Palem.
On the contrary with the lower player base not every top 10 kingdom has the ability to recruit pro recruits so yes they do have some nubs in the kingdom that do use target finders, especially if they are at work , at a party or have 2 minutes to hit. All a bit of a over- reaction if you ask me. 10 hits sure, that's a bit much of a co-incidence. Two prov's hitting that's just a mistake.
All blown way out of proportion if you ask me. They didn't farm there war win it was a legitimate war win and might I add i think they were double hostile and and still won that war while having a province raze killed, seems like a lot of speculation here with no hard facts. Larger kingdoms do use the target finder as its simple, quick and for the most part the provinces listed for the smaller guys in the kingdom are all from smaller kingdoms thus safe land grabs. Point being they could of hit 10 times or more if they were real douches, they didn't. Enough said really this is all just baseless speculation.
And as Palem said he is sick of it because it has happened on multiple occasions this age to him. I think the kingdom name should be listed in the target finder so people tagged hostile can be clearly seen and avoided. If a kingdom is smaller I rarely if ever check their kingdom page, as lets face it they are smaller they usually don't retal . I've checked the snatch news for both kingdoms,
They could of hit Palem more, seems that when they realized what was happening they halted hits, and that's a douche move ? were talking about 3 hits here. not a full wave, how three hits can be considered on purpose with two of those 3 hits coming from one prov is beyond me. Give credit where credit is due the fact remains they could of continued with the hits and although the situation sucks Palem has said this has happened multiple times to him, so either they were all on purpose each kingdom that did it or there are some genuine mistakes, most relating to the lack of kingdom name in the target finder. Ofc some are douche moves but considering the size of the kingdom involved. They showed restraint even when a post like this was made attempting to organize a gang bang, they showed restraint and realized a mistake had been made.
Either way hater's are just gonna hate and there is nothing you can do about that. An no it isn't hard to snatch news before hitting but whats the point when you fail 3 sots then fail three snatch new's and loose 550 thieves or so in some cases. People rather do an SOM get the defense numbers and go from there, you can't expect people to waste stealth and thieves to losses when this could all be avoided by adding Kingdom names in a sidebar on the target finder. I rather look for solutions to problems than sitting there accusing everyone of foul play which is totally baseless.
I do feel sorry for Palem and can understand his frustration but quite simply they could of attacked more, they didn't. When the mistake was noticed they seemed to stop. A little credit where credit is due. If the target finder is going to be a part of the game from now on surely we have to accept it wasn't going to be perfect in its first round of implementation, so lets makes suggestions and tweak it in some way so things like this can be avoided in the future rounds. I'm sure if it was a great number of the hit's early in the round Palem received it would then leave no doubt in anyone's mind that a douche move had been undertaken.
I just simply don't think that was the case in this scenario. Sure it sucked but a lot more damage could of been inflicted but it wasn't. I do expect much more post's similar to this one through out the age as I don't think it will be a problem that is going to go away over night until the target finder is altered at the very least. It is frustrating and and similar hits have occurred against my kingdom when tagged hostile. I simply don't foresee this problem going away any time soon, unless we all start petitioning for the tweaking of the target finder by added an extra column with the kingdom name at the side. Then i do expect there will be a dramatic decrease in these types of mistakes.
There's this thing called formatting, please learn how to use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by xX NBK Xx
Nobody is going to read your post when it looks like that.
Unless it's war then it isn't anything. Until hostile becomes an official game status rather than moron monarchs changing their KD name at the drop of a hat then it is fair game. I'm so bored of all the nitwits who constantly change their KD name to indicate some kind of status or other of their kingdom. It's a KD name ffs...show some sense and leave it the same for the whole Age and people might actually respect the kingdom.
As long as people is tagging "false" hostiles, other kds are going to hit into them. A bigger kd waves into a smaller one thats absolutly not going to take the fight, and then tags "hostile" to get free science or land ... People should hit into kds tagged "hostile" as long as most of them are actually not. No need to waste stealth as the big majority lies anyway. To bad for the ones that use it correctly, they should probebly stop doing it.
there is an ingame target finder?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
I just want to say if it is Disturbed, that they hit into our Hostile as well.
Hostile tags are the best target finders in the game if you play in the ghetto's. free hit/hits and just play dumb if target KD complains. Why waste stealth on SN when you can use it robbing gold
Many people hit kingdoms tagged Hostile because of a few reasons.
1) Too much fake tagging so people dont bother to check.
2) If your hostile with someone else, chances are your not going to waste a hit retalling someone not in your hostile.
3) Generally if your in a hostile, people in the kingdom are going to have gc stocked.
That pretty much sums it up, its **** play and I also hate it, but its what happens. Adding game mechanics to have a true hostile meter tag wont change anything, people are still going to do it. Unless you actually put in negative gains for kingdoms who have high points on the meter with another kingdom - though that seems like somehow it could be abused.
I find the idea that you can can claim the right not to be hit from a tag ridicules. It is good that there are no penalties for hitting into a kingdom that is hostile with another. Everything should be a choice based on risk and reward. If you hit into someone's hostile they might come back for you afterwards. If you choose to extend your hostile you kd might recieve randoms or your bank might get plundered because he's so god damn juicy. Rather then QQing in the forums you should go take your revenge on them.
They don't hit only tagged kingdoms, apparently they go out of their way to find hostiles to hit into (their low number of hits is given by their lack of targets in those kingdoms). It's pretty tough hurting a kingdom who is just happy being a mediocre whoring kingdom anyway. So why would anyone bother?
Their first ww was farmed (there is a thread here about it).
The perfect solution: Don't drag out hostile.
Seriously, I never pay attention to hostile tags. I don't hunt specifically for kingdoms tagged hostile and I won't ignore a juicy plunder just because the monarch changed the kingdom name. I have better things to do with my stealth than to snatch news.
Another 'scumbag' like me :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Landro
i'm thinking Mr. Palem never had to deal with Abs who were hunting for acres ... if you don't hold hands, they will take your acres, same with pretty much any other big kd. This thread resembles a spoiled kid having his toy taken from him. At least that's what it makes me think of ... God know how many hits i took from bigger kds and had to eat it .. so i don't see the point of this cry thread. It's a game, it goes on , stuff happens, deal with it.
P.S. I wouldn't waste stealth on snatch news either. Only thing i do check though is the kd page to see if there's a war and the size of the kd i hit in, so i don't get retaled too hard if i hit :P