Proteus gangbang for a confusion of cf terms ?
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Proteus gangbang for a confusion of cf terms ?
What kind if n00b are you to unilaterally decide hostile is over without negotiating with the kd you are hostile with. Just because you decide to stop hitting and coordinate with another kd to screw the kd that was hitting you doesnt mean its legitimate. Quite frankly you should be gbed for this. Last time you ran your big mouth and said jerks is as good as ama and so are your leaders, remember how hard i laughed at you? All you've proven so far is to be a tier-3 ghetto who cant hack it in too in a watered down era and when things dont go your way you **** play like setup farm wars and fake wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pendel1
It's not a confusion of cf terms its deliberate deal break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darklove
Pewpew coordinated with jerks to artificially end real hostile. It was exactly the same situation how havoc and sanc coordinated to have sanc "end" a real hostile so havoc can hit in.
Jerks cant jus decide hostile is over and run to arranged war and bring another kd in to fight. If this happened to us it would result in gb from Abs.
Giving notice in hostile is not a confusion of cf terms, its a deal break.
Ignoring cf terms made by a leader who quit the kd (cf terms still apply) is a deal break.
Given pewpew's history and all the lame **** they have done you can clearly see there is no confusion, pewpew knows what they are doing and its what they do best (**** playing)
When one of the kingdoms is not doing ops or hits and offered cf it is clear no hostile - are you retarded to see it?
Last time I said Jerks is better than AMA we were better and we won that age, even after the agreed LL farming from Havoc for 8k acrs just ot screw us over in the last 15mins of the age.
Anyway I still got friends in AMA and I think the **** Elit &cello gave to jerks was not fair at all. You wanted war - ok we gave you one, you won and thats it you got 15k acrs, but no you greedy ****s wanted more and more, you even though that you are so safe that you started exploring your provincies while kept hitting us, wtf where did you think this will end? Pew gives you 2 weeks more so you can pump as hell and **** them up? Come on you got what you asked for, from what I see pew pew is smaller in size so you got every chance to win :-)
proteus if i recall right then haoc hit straight into the kd thqat sanc ended hostile with. If so very different than giving notice.
And a hostile is basicly over the moment the kd u are hostile with enters another war. So basicly free to serve them notice.
Cf terms that was agreed on was confimed by ama to be 48 houers 3x times. If pew then assumes that is right then they break deal ?
Your bias is as always fun to read :-)
I think all of this has come as EJ was pissed with AMA bullying them... I don't think EJ would have communicated (if they did... I think they did) if AMA was not being unreasonable beating a dead horse.
But really, by Elit logic, next time I want to explore provinces safely, I should just hit a ghetto half my size, and start doubling provs, and every top KD will respect my hostile and definitely really not attack me, right Elit?
Its 2 completely different scenarios. You cannot claim to be hostile with a kd half your size, but this is not the case here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
I agree that the farming went alittle overboard in this case, but i still think pew could grant ama some more time to prep to be fair. I mean, if they want to promote fair play now is their chance to do so. It would also help them next age when doing diplo with elit, atleast thats my opinion on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by American Badass
3 A Mothers Advice (x:x) Icia 113,843 acresQuote:
Originally Posted by MrCurious
9 jerks v 3-31 (x:x) Alia 55,769 acres
jerks are less than half of AMA's size...how this different?
Because they started half their size right? I dont think they did Palem, i think you know what i mean...Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
+ they went into war with another kd who is currently outgaining them, so 55k was not their end size when they went into their arranged war.
that being said, i agree the farming went too far in this case.
/facepalmQuote:
Originally Posted by Meep
There is nothing wrong to explore during an active hostile. If you want to, go ahead. Your risk. In most cases though it won't work out because you'll have an under defended province with lack of wizards, making it easy for your opponent to control it.
Of course this hostile lasted longer than it should have under normal circumstances, but you can't end a hostile on your own by sending a CF over. Running away to someone else has never ended a conflict before. It just puts the runner in a worse position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pendel1
The result is the same. In both cases you lose a lot of stuff. Not even sure which one is worse to be honest.Quote:
When I tell you that there's a difference between deal-breaking and bullying you don't even get what I'm saying and instead immediately put me down as "them" who don't "give a ****" about a "noob" like yourself. This alone is pretty telling.
I'm gonna have to spell out the difference.
- Bullying: A better kingdom takes your stuff because you're not able to defend it.
- Deal-Breaking: You make a deal with someone and wait until their backs are turned from trusting your word, then you backstab them.
If this is the same for you then I don't know what else to tell you.
I can't be bothered to find the thread but RBL was accused of being in a fake hostile when they were hostile with a kd ~60-70% their size and we was ridiculed for being tagged "hostile". I think if one kingdom goes to war it is obvious all hits are going to stop and that the hostile is over. It could be deemed bad play how it has been done but I think it has all been done within the rules/constraints the community has set over the years.
*edit* before anyone says anything, when hostile started RBL was I believe within 10% land range.