Ronin vs Frosties

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Originally Posted by Chris121

So Ronins are saying Allanon KD should wait for them to farm out before stepping in? Why?

If Allanon's KD are right in that Ronins was trying to arrange a farm out, why should they wait? Once it happens, the other KD already has a ton of free land and it's much harder to rectify.

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Hey look! Someone gets it! My faith in these forums is restored!

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Originally Posted by Allanon

As I said to you before, based on what you told me we seem to be the only kingdom in the top they didn't approach to farm out to. Am I supposed to feel bad about responding to a deliberate attempt to farm out to our opponents outside of the hostile whilst trying to claim hostile protection? It just reinforces that I made the right call in attacking them before they could get the acres to one of our other opponents.



Except we had ceasefire deals in place with most of our opponents that had notices attached to them, and unlike Ronins we don't dealbreak. When we make a deal, our word is iron-clad.

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so you're saying the kd who made the farm assuming it is eme (according to your camp) are cleared? even if clearly they hit into a double hostile and they are not warranted of a deal break? but you can double hostile someone who you heard making a farm out?

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Originally Posted by lionell

so you're saying the kd who made the farm assuming it is eme (according to your camp) are cleared? even if clearly they hit into a double hostile and they are not warranted of a deal break? but you can double hostile someone who you heard making a farm out?

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Your questions make no sense.

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Originally Posted by lionell

so you're saying the kd who made the farm assuming it is eme (according to your camp) are cleared? even if clearly they hit into a double hostile and they are not warranted of a deal break? but you can double hostile someone who you heard making a farm out?

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If Emeriti or anyone else for that matter were to ****play me or dealbreak me, I would take retaliatory measures. The degree of those measures would depend on exactly what they did. Doing something to another kd however, whether beneficial or otherwise for my own kd, I do not consider grounds for a deal-break.

You (Ronins) were making arrangements to farm acres to my opponents not involved in your hostile whilst claiming the protection of your hostile. You don't get to do that. You start trying to farm out, the hostile is over as far as I'm concerned. You want to claim the protection of hostile, then don't try to farm out to someone else.

It's real simple: You want to claim the hostile, keep it 1v1, and I'll respect that.

Weep at the sight of the Sword of Mansoor , for it is he who will set you forth this day to be judged by the maker!

Do not these think that they shall be raised again, for a mighty day, the day on which men shall stand before the Lord of the worlds? (83:4-6)

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Originally Posted by Strokeofgenuis

Weep at the sight of the Sword of Mansoor , for it is he who will set you forth this day to be judged by the maker!

Do not these think that they shall be raised again, for a mighty day, the day on which men shall stand before the Lord of the worlds? (83:4-6)

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Originally Posted by Chris121

So Ronins are saying Allanon KD should wait for them to farm out before stepping in? Why?

If Allanon's KD are right in that Ronins was trying to arrange a farm out, why should they wait? Once it happens, the other KD already has a ton of free land and it's much harder to rectify.

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What if they are wrong?

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Originally Posted by outburst

What if they are wrong?

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Then when Allanon KD waved, Ronins would ask what is happening, Allanon KD would explain, Ronins would say "wtf no you are wrong", and if Allanon KD can't provide a reasonable level of proof then my view would be very different (for example, Ronins could quite reasonably demand their land back).

But in the actual scenario, Allanon's KD presumably isn't wrong as Ronins haven't even disputed it (which, in fairness, is a positive attribute).

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Originally Posted by Allanon

As I said to you before, based on what you told me we seem to be the only kingdom in the top they didn't approach to farm out to. Am I supposed to feel bad about responding to a deliberate attempt to farm out to our opponents outside of the hostile whilst trying to claim hostile protection? It just reinforces that I made the right call in attacking them before they could get the acres to one of our other opponents.



Except we had ceasefire deals in place with most of our opponents that had notices attached to them, and unlike Ronins we don't dealbreak. When we make a deal, our word is iron-clad.

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Originally Posted by Chris121

Then when Allanon KD waved, Ronins would ask what is happening, Allanon KD would explain, Ronins would say "wtf no you are wrong", and if Allanon KD can't provide a reasonable level of proof then my view would be very different (for example, Ronins could quite reasonably demand their land back).

But in the actual scenario, Allanon's KD presumably isn't wrong as Ronins haven't even disputed it (which, in fairness, is a positive attribute).

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How would they dispute it while they are in a hostile?

While Allanon claims he had some sort of right to protect his land chart interests (what a joke, I know), the fact of the matter is he did not. You do not get to act on presumptions and rumours. If anyone should have been concerned about Ronins farming out, it should have been the damn kingdom they are hostile with, Frost Giants. I'm genuinely surprised no one has actioned them already, but then again, it could all just be a big conspiracy to allow big bad loony toons #2 in the world WOWOWOWOWOWOOWW

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Originally Posted by maugrim

How would they dispute it while they are in a hostile?

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They could dispute it in the forums and through dip (probably with much more public support than the current situation given that they would not have not done or tried to do anything wrong). If that didn't achieve the desired result, then it is true that they would probably want/have to wait until after hostile to do anything militarily themselves and/or seek help from others to right to wrong.

For the path of the wicked shall be short, and end abruptly by the burning sword of Mansoor! Bow now infidels, there is still time to get upon your knees and fall prostrate before his Greatness!

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The number of randoms on daily basis has grown. Thanks to the free publicity. Might as well make an open invitation to all now since mods/forums have allowed target sharing (by not censoring kd coordinates any longer) - free acres on Ronins' orcs in 7:6 as they won't retal for sure (hit at your own risk though cos 7:8 may claim it's farming out to their competitors again!).

Also by virtue of what Allanon said that no one can farm acres to their competitors (not defined) (and maybe cos he's god or mod - just a difference of one letter), he has all the right to hit anyone they feel or rumoured to be thinking of or in discussion of a possible farm out to third parties. Being in active and well publicized hostile in forums or heck, even war, doesn't matter as he has all right to take acres from whomever they wish even before the actual act happened? Go Mod! Well done Dev on recruiting such a player as Mod. I don't even want to get to the **** mechanisms and changes introduced this age (accidental or incidental) cos they suck.

hmm

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Originally Posted by sUpeRneBU

Also by virtue of what Allanon said that no one can farm acres to their competitors (not defined) (and maybe cos he's god or mod - just a difference of one letter), he has all the right to hit anyone they feel or rumoured to be thinking of or in discussion of a possible farm out to third parties. Being in active and well publicized hostile in forums or heck, even war, doesn't matter as he has all right to take acres from whomever they wish even before the actual act happened? Go Mod! Well done Dev on recruiting such a player as Mod. I don't even want to get to the **** mechanisms and changes introduced this age (accidental or incidental) cos they suck.

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Duhh!!

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Originally Posted by sUpeRneBU

The number of randoms on daily basis has grown. Thanks to the free publicity. Might as well make an open invitation to all now since mods/forums have allowed target sharing (by not censoring kd coordinates any longer) - free acres on Ronins' orcs in 7:6 as they won't retal for sure (hit at your own risk though cos 7:8 may claim it's farming out to their competitors again!).

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You must be suffering so many randoms in order to be going up in acres... LOL cry cry cry cry.

Turn your ears to me heathens, as Mansoor riding upon the pale horse, of which death and destruction have followed shall not be the end of it - For their will be much weeping and gnashing off teeth, crying out to your false gods. You will find no quarter, as the trumpet sounds again, shaking you to your core, as a new rider approaches. Again I tell you all to behold, for after the next seal has been broken, a new rider approaches, Queen Eliza, and with her follows the angel of pestilence. Tis true the end is nigh, but alas not the end to your suffering. I beseech you infidels to beg for mercy and turn your eyes from the lies you perpetuate - repent for your sins are like scarlet on freshly fallen snow

Excepted, however, shall be they that repent, and put themselves to rights, and make known the truth: and it is they whose repentance I shall accept-for I alone am the Acceptor of Repentance, the Dispenser of Grace. - 2:160

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Originally Posted by Strokeofgenuis

Turn your ears to me heathens, as Mansoor riding upon the pale horse, of which death and destruction have followed shall not be the end of it - For their will be much weeping and gnashing off teeth, crying out to your false gods. You will find no quarter, as the trumpet sounds again, shaking you to your core, as a new rider approaches. Again I tell you all to behold, for after the next seal has been broken, a new rider approaches, Queen Eliza, and with her follows the angel of pestilence. Tis true the end is nigh, but alas not the end to your suffering. I beseech you infidels to beg for mercy and turn your eyes from the lies you perpetuate - repent for your sins are like scarlet on freshly fallen snow

Excepted, however, shall be they that repent, and put themselves to rights, and make known the truth: and it is they whose repentance I shall accept-for I alone am the Acceptor of Repentance, the Dispenser of Grace. - 2:160

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All Mujahideen to lord Mansoor and Queen Eliza!

At least a good precedent is set now. Next ages a kd can freely wave into a hostile, claiming they hear "rumour" that that kd is planning to give away land to competitor. "I hear, so I wave" !!
Rumours can turn into fact easily in Utopia lol.

One more unwritten rule to be remembered and use, folks.

The wave on ronins hurt FG more than ronins, the fact you're crying about it and FG isnt is damn hilarious.

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Originally Posted by sUpeRneBU

Hmm since a Mod says it's ok is ok I guess?

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He is a mod to moderate the forums and keep it civil. He doesnt moderate the game.

Understand the difference! And stop crying!

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Well maugrim, we keep telling you they were making those deals so that land would never get back to you ...

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Originally Posted by sUpeRneBU

The number of randoms on daily basis has grown. Thanks to the free publicity. Might as well make an open invitation to all now since mods/forums have allowed target sharing (by not censoring kd coordinates any longer) - free acres on Ronins' orcs in 7:6 as they won't retal for sure (hit at your own risk though cos 7:8 may claim it's farming out to their competitors again!).

Also by virtue of what Allanon said that no one can farm acres to their competitors (not defined) (and maybe cos he's god or mod - just a difference of one letter), he has all the right to hit anyone they feel or rumoured to be thinking of or in discussion of a possible farm out to third parties. Being in active and well publicized hostile in forums or heck, even war, doesn't matter as he has all right to take acres from whomever they wish even before the actual act happened? Go Mod! Well done Dev on recruiting such a player as Mod. I don't even want to get to the **** mechanisms and changes introduced this age (accidental or incidental) cos they suck.

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You do realise your orcs are low npa/fat? This will ensure randoms will look at "free" acres. It is not like others KD's have not have this issue

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Originally Posted by Blitz

Well maugrim, we keep telling you they were making those deals so that land would never get back to you ...

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See what I mean? Some ppl say we deserve the randoms due to low NWPA, some ppl say we are making deals to get land drop. Confused

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Originally Posted by sUpeRneBU

He must be doing a bad job then. Ex Em boys protecting ex em boys eh

Sack him.

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I've never played for Emeriti. And I can't moderate threads in which my kingdom is involved. Hence why I'm leaving it to the others since my kd was brought up

Ronin, you guys are pathetic. You can’t even fight 1vs1 and your crying because Froties didnt declare yet ? You keep asking for outside help from entire server to get LD because ur greedy and don’t even know how to handle this hostile properly alone.

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Originally Posted by Cappodocians

Ronin, you guys are pathetic. You can’t even fight 1vs1 and your crying because Froties didnt declare yet ? You keep asking for outside help from entire server to get LD because ur greedy and don’t even know how to handle this hostile properly alone.

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QQ much? dont make me B slap u!

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Originally Posted by sUpeRneBU

See what I mean? Some ppl say we deserve the randoms due to low NWPA, some ppl say we are making deals to get land drop. Confused

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Huge difference between randoms and farm out.

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Originally Posted by Cappodocians

Ronin, you guys are pathetic. You can’t even fight 1vs1 and your crying because Froties didnt declare yet ? You keep asking for outside help from entire server to get LD because ur greedy and don’t even know how to handle this hostile properly alone.

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This is funny, as i have been following this 2 kingdom. And i got SN almost every day. Aren't you the one who called your friend from 1:9 to LD your masaccred mystic the ordered your mercenary to hit 3 times on ronin.. now you act like you cant win 1v1... both you guys have been asking from outside help. Dont act so clean...

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Originally Posted by Chris121

Huge difference between randoms and farm out.

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Dude. Like we can retal everyone? We don't have enough offence for anything but to F frosties up.

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Originally Posted by sUpeRneBU

Dude. Like we can retal everyone? We don't have enough offence for anything but to F frosties up.

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If you can't beat them, embrace them.

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Originally Posted by sUpeRneBU

See what I mean? Some ppl say we deserve the randoms due to low NWPA, some ppl say we are making deals to get land drop. Confused

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No confusione, don't worry. You asked for landdrop to at least 1 kd before we waved you.
If we will have solid intel like we had, that you offer acres like that again to our competitors .... you will know.

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Originally Posted by Blitz

No confusione, don't worry. You asked for landdrop to at least 1 kd before we waved you.
If we will have solid intel like we had, that you offer acres like that again to our competitors .... you will know.

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Did Nebu just quote himself a minure later. Almost like he has 2 accounts and forgot to switch ? Nebu is loon or lionell or both?

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Originally Posted by sUpeRneBU

He must be doing a bad job then. Ex Em boys protecting ex em boys eh

Sack him.

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I also have never played in Emeretii and actually most of my established Uto friends played in Covenant kd's. Don't sell your acres to the competition and you won't have to cry in the forums.

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Originally Posted by Memster

Did Nebu just quote himself a minure later. Almost like he has 2 accounts and forgot to switch ? Nebu is loon or lionell or both?

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They are all different people.

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Originally Posted by Memster

Did Nebu just quote himself a minure later. Almost like he has 2 accounts and forgot to switch ? Nebu is loon or lionell or both?

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I can also be you if you want.

Cower you infidels as the brightness of day subsides to the fury of the night, for the darkness will spread as your spirits crumble before your false gods, but a bright light shall appear in the sky like a phoenix from the ashes , in the shape of a feline, the mighty queen Eliza, to her right the horseman of pestilence and to her left of famine, the sky awash with a cleansing flame so that all may bow and know the folly of their ways The Pale rider Mansoor, will cast thee down to the depths, depths where agony knows no bounds, and the lady Queen Eliza will provide no refuge for your tortured souls. Behold I say again for the time is approaching!

Essentially they were trying to set up a "fake hostile" with Emeriti...and got a "real hostile" when they were waved by Resilience.

For all we know...Ronins was gonna give the age away to Binar for free and Resilience came to save the day for the server by cutting them off to those empty acres

They are heroes really...though they still stealing our acres :-/

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Originally Posted by lionell

This is funny, as i have been following this 2 kingdom. And i got SN almost every day. Aren't you the one who called your friend from 1:9 to LD your masaccred mystic the ordered your mercenary to hit 3 times on ronin.. now you act like you cant win 1v1... both you guys have been asking from outside help. Dont act so clean...

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This is also false because their orcs have been able to break all our faeries (and has broken already)...so there would be no need to ask for a landrop if Ronin was already taking acres.

Dunno about the 3 mercenary hits...I don't think anyone likes us that much to fight for us lol