Absalom vs Killer Instinct

as much as I have to laugh at this sudden comparison to RL politics, here's something for you to consider: What happened in Afghanistan? What happened in the Falklands? Do Desert Storm and New Dawn ring any bells?

When a small dog tries to bite a big one for the big one trying to eat his food, the big dog fights back. Hard. And almost invariably hammers the living crap out of the smaller dog. This applies even in RL politics.

The larger kingdoms and countries usually don't because they choose not to. Not because they are prevented from doing so by some almighty power or game mechanic. This can change if the other party decides to push too far. Maybe it's time you remembered that

lolz - You ... can't really believe that! There is a certain morality that separates man from beast.
Cognitive powers from sheer instinct.
Need from greed.

Salvation was calling but you demurred
Intrinsically evil sounds cool
til you burn all your bridges

What do you do in hell
When all the other occupants
Opt out..

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Originally Posted by DeVille

lolz - You ... can't really believe that! There is a certain morality that separates man from beast.
Cognitive powers from sheer instinct.
Need from greed.

Salvation was calling but you demurred
Intrinsically evil sounds cool
til you burn all your bridges

What do you do in hell
When all the other occupants
Opt out..

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So you're saying this:

Anand should have withdraw and let Topalov beat him in the world chess champoinship.
The Boston Celtics should have let their adversaries win 17 times.
Italy should have left France to win the FIFA world cup.

Bacause the stronger and the better has to have high morale, despite both playing by same rules, the smaller has the RIGHT to expect the stronger to back off?

This thread is turning into a humor fest!

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Originally Posted by TheRock

TRICK QUESTION

A kingdom 50% of your size can't send you a dragon ;)

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Originally Posted by WolfDGrey

But at 51.8% of your size they can. :P

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Ummm unless BiO and Mercy have access to some fun dragon rules.... Dragon range is 80-125%, but if said KD started the dragon way back yonder, they can send it even if they are 1% ur size :p

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Originally Posted by WolfDGrey

So you're saying this:

Anand should have withdraw and let Topalov beat him in the world chess champoinship.
The Boston Celtics should have let their adversaries win 17 times.
Italy should have left France to win the FIFA world cup.

Bacause the stronger and the better has to have high morale, despite both playing by same rules, the smaller has the RIGHT to expect the stronger to back off?

This thread is turning into a humor fest!

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You walk into the room
With your pencil in your hand
You see somebody naked
And you say, “Who is that man?”
You try so hard
But you don’t understand
Just what you’ll say
When you get home

- B. Dylan

So basically you're saying kds shld compete in their league. Agreed!

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Originally Posted by Fate1316

Ummm unless BiO and Mercy have access to some fun dragon rules.... Dragon range is 80-125%, but if said KD started the dragon way back yonder, they can send it even if they are 1% ur size :p

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No, we don't have separate rules, it's happening as you said, the dragon was STARTED a few weeks ago. I didn't asked "why they are ABLE TO START" at that size, my point was that "why they are ABLE TO SEND" from that size? Another sample of "fair" rules wich hurt the ones who have skill and determination to grow as opposed to the ones who don't.

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Originally Posted by DeVille

So basically you're saying kds shld compete in their league. Agreed!

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NO, I am saying that if you're better, stronger, more determined, more dedicated, it is not a right thing for the weak, stupid and lazy to win because of some invented moral high ground.

It is not real life, it is not real murder, not real blood flowing, no real suffering of the provinces' soldiers and horses. There are some numbers and moves just as in chess. It is a game played by many by the same rules. If you loose, you loose. If you have to give a free wave you give. If you have the balls to stand against, don't come crying that they were stronger even after you thought they won't be.

My kingdom was waved by abs many times. We waved abs kd's many times. Sometimes one goes home winning something, other times the other. Sometimes size doesn't matter. Sometime it does. And to tell you the truth, you can blame ABS for many many things, but there is only one alliance who never broke a deal we made, and that was ABS. Sure, they powerplayed us when they had a chance, they bottomfeed on us when they had the chance. In exchange, we gladly return the favour when it is our turn. But towards us, I don't say towards others, but towards us, they never broke a deal and I can respect that.
On the other side, you lied, tried to manipulate with false data, you try to implement changes wich would be bad for the game as a whole, and you still have the impunity to claim moral high grounds!

That is a big reason why I can't sympathise with you. I know from experience that they are not absurd and if the situation went to razefast, means that you didn't even tried the diplomatic path.

It's just like you would sit down to play with Karpov, then accuse him for cheating.

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Originally Posted by WolfDGrey

So you're saying this:

Anand should have withdraw and let Topalov beat him in the world chess champoinship.
The Boston Celtics should have let their adversaries win 17 times.
Italy should have left France to win the FIFA world cup.

Bacause the stronger and the better has to have high morale, despite both playing by same rules, the smaller has the RIGHT to expect the stronger to back off?

This thread is turning into a humor fest!

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WolfDGrey

Please try to stay on topic.

In your examples above, you cite:

Chess pro against chess pro
Celtics against their adverseries **** {We presume you don't mean little league}
Italy against France

You never said a word about Anand against some amateur that just picked up the game

(You think they'd watch it on tv?)

(You think they'd give him money for winning?}

{You think the crowds would go wild when he won?}

{You think he wouldn't blush when he won?}

Italy against France - you never said a word about Italy against Bordeaux

Ya gotta say what you mean & mean what you say.

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Then, then you go on to whine about some bigger kd sending you people a draggy - vive la double standard - when it affects you
it's outrageous but when it affects the rest of Uto, you think they're lame & ought to buck up.

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Then, THEN .. you go on to suck to Absies and kiss their feet. "If I be nice to them, they will be my friend."

lolol Got news for you sweets, they ain't nobody's friend. TheRock would raze you at the drop of a hat.

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Originally Posted by DeVille

You never said a word about Anand against some amateur that just picked up the game

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No amateur would not start to cry claiming chess rules needs to be changed bacause Anand have beat him in chess. That is why this situation is so halucinant, as you claim to be an amateur, a victim, yet, you want to play chess against Anand, instead of talking with him about the weather.

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Originally Posted by DeVille

Then, then you go on to whine about some bigger kd sending you people a draggy - vive la double standard - when it affects you it's outrageous but when it affects the rest of Uto, you think they're lame & ought to buck up.

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This shows how much you know and how much you base all your philosophy on pure ASSUMPTIONS. To completely overtrow your propaganda, I have to tell you that in this case the smaller kingdom sent dragon to the bigger. So yes, vive la doubble standard... in your speech!

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Originally Posted by DeVille

Then, THEN .. you go on to suck to Absies and kiss their feet. "If I be nice to them, they will be my friend."

lolol Got news for you sweets, they ain't nobody's friend.

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Talking normally and respecting what others do well, has nothing to do with kissing up or being friends.

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Originally Posted by DeVille

TheRock would raze you at the drop of a hat.

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Of course. But I'm not an idiot to offer them the oportunity.

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Originally Posted by DeVille

lolol Got news for you sweets, they ain't nobody's friend. TheRock would raze you at the drop of a hat.

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That's actually not really true. BiO was the first kd outside of Abs I ever really got to know, and I have great respect for Josti, Keith, Dave, Sorrow, Death and all the other guy's who've passed through there. I'm reasonably certain it would take more than just a hat to get me to raze BiO.

what kind of hat?

The only kind worth wearing

A Yankees hat

I love my nubhat

<:D

<3<3

Where oh where did Paul go?
April 7 of YR15 One Week to Grow Big has sent an aid shipment to Paul.
April 7 of YR15 One Week to Grow Big has sent an aid shipment to Paul.
April 9 of YR15 Damnum absque injuria has sent an aid shipment to Paul.
April 9 of YR15 Damnum absque injuria has sent an aid shipment to Paul.
April 21 of YR15 Sean has sent an aid shipment to Paul.
April 21 of YR15 Damnum absque injuria has sent an aid shipment to Paul.
April 22 of YR15 One Week to Grow Big has sent an aid shipment to Paul.

In completely un-related, totally not possibly related to farming and having all your kd feed you news, all of Paul's kingdom-mates have nobly released all of their offense, defense and thieves and sent them to Paul. TOTALLY JUST KILLING OFF THOSE INACTIVES! NOT FARMING! BUILDING KINGDOMS BY HAVING EVERYONE RELEASE AND SEND EVERYTHING TO PAUL!

"They hit into my farm war" remains my favorite "I hate Absalom because...." reason.

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Originally Posted by TheRock

Where oh where did Paul go?
April 7 of YR15 One Week to Grow Big has sent an aid shipment to Paul.
April 7 of YR15 One Week to Grow Big has sent an aid shipment to Paul.
April 9 of YR15 Damnum absque injuria has sent an aid shipment to Paul.
April 9 of YR15 Damnum absque injuria has sent an aid shipment to Paul.
April 21 of YR15 Sean has sent an aid shipment to Paul.
April 21 of YR15 Damnum absque injuria has sent an aid shipment to Paul.
April 22 of YR15 One Week to Grow Big has sent an aid shipment to Paul.

In completely un-related, totally not possibly related to farming and having all your kd feed you news, all of Paul's kingdom-mates have nobly released all of their offense, defense and thieves and sent them to Paul. TOTALLY JUST KILLING OFF THOSE INACTIVES! NOT FARMING! BUILDING KINGDOMS BY HAVING EVERYONE RELEASE AND SEND EVERYTHING TO PAUL!

"They hit into my farm war" remains my favorite "I hate Absalom because...." reason.

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Whatever floats your boat.

We, on the other hand are not Absalom obsessed. Never comes up IK.
Pure fighting power. 58, 59 & 66. By tomorrow, we'll pass 54..
Not bad for a 6.7 mil kd who had to claw their way to the top against all odds.