DHaran vs vines

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31-05-2009, 01:07
MorbidAngel

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Originally Posted by DHaran

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April 11th, YR7 Alas, the once proud province of Dirt Patch (12:20) has collapsed and lies in ruins.

Bottom line is, you got scared and deleted when the truth came out that you could not win. I will link this thread to anyone who you give advice to, so they can see how ****ty of a player you are. Game over.

I said he will delete 2 months ago...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.ph...8&postcount=28
31-05-2009, 06:56
kunelg

I honestly am surprised when I see Vines' province stats. Clearly looks awesome to me (and no sacrasm there.) That is why I am amazed that he lost.

Vines could start with some defense spec and not all elites (which even though it make the offense looks nice stat-wise but useless in reality). That will give better defense at home, and consequently, attack power. Next, on one-on-one with a DW, 4 TPA might be excessive if you are not using it for anything don't you think. 1000 troops according to his modifiers could means a lot.

Really, if Vines use that TPA and the superior WPA he claimed, I'd say he might have a chance of victory. Dharan only run 44 farms for god sake. When the relation become unfriendly, if I were Vines I'd use all my mana and stealth for tornado + arson + rob granaries + drought. That will starve him ... and according to the rule, no food aid, not to mention 18 hours to rebuild.

So there.
31-05-2009, 08:35
vines

The weakened the gnome a great deal from the time I strated post about the gnome. This age they lowered the amount of new worth the dwarf and orc elites give. My tpa was way better but some how he was oping me I just don't see it. My wpa was around the same.
I didn't want to bring that into play. I could have got rid of all his food but I wanted to show a greater military force in action. However, you are right I should have just made his people go hungry.

Also once he did an attack his province would have to rest because he needed high guild % to have the fls last long enough and for his forts to give enough protection.
31-05-2009, 08:42
LameBeaver

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My tpa was way better but some how he was oping me I just don't see it.

..means, somehow, you underestimated his(or overestimated yours).

....or it's a bug in the game and we need to report that.
31-05-2009, 09:47
vines

I had 2rawtpa and +25%crime science and I was gnome and he was dwarf. I know at some points I was getting opped by other province. The likely hood for him to able to op on me the way he was is very unlikely.
31-05-2009, 10:16
Ezzerland

woah, he actually stayed alive long enough to fight?
31-05-2009, 14:34
VT2

Your TPA blew, vines.
31-05-2009, 14:48
DHaran

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I honestly am surprised when I see Vines' province stats. Clearly looks awesome to me (and no sacrasm there.) That is why I am amazed that he lost.

Vines could start with some defense spec and not all elites (which even though it make the offense looks nice stat-wise but useless in reality). That will give better defense at home, and consequently, attack power. Next, on one-on-one with a DW, 4 TPA might be excessive if you are not using it for anything don't you think. 1000 troops according to his modifiers could means a lot.

Really, if Vines use that TPA and the superior WPA he claimed, I'd say he might have a chance of victory. Dharan only run 44 farms for god sake. When the relation become unfriendly, if I were Vines I'd use all my mana and stealth for tornado + arson + rob granaries + drought. That will starve him ... and according to the rule, no food aid, not to mention 18 hours to rebuild.

So there.

You are about as stupid as vines. I had 5-6% Farms because I had 40% Food Science, and didn't need any more, he could steal as much as he wanted, I was never in negative food production. Even if relation got to unfriendly, he couldn't muster anything but a few minor ops with his **** tpa.

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Also once he did an attack his province would have to rest because he needed high guild % to have the fls last long enough and for his forts to give enough protection.

I ran 15% Guilds, my FL was just fine, and I didn't even have Forts, so don't know what the hell you are talking about there.

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I had 2rawtpa and +25%crime science and I was gnome and he was dwarf. I know at some points I was getting opped by other province. The likely hood for him to able to op on me the way he was is very unlikely.

LOL well I had 2.2 tpa and 35% Thievery Science, so no wonder you couldn't touch me. You are the worst gnome ever.
01-06-2009, 01:25
MorbidAngel

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Originally Posted by DHaran

LOL well I had 2.2 tpa and 35% Thievery Science, so no wonder you couldn't touch me. You are the worst gnome ever.

I saw one worse, but it was a farm..

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Originally Posted by kunelg

I honestly am surprised when I see Vines' province stats. Clearly looks awesome to me (and no sacrasm there.) That is why I am amazed that he lost.

Your post count explains why

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Originally Posted by kunelg

and according to the rule, no food aid, not to mention 18 hours to rebuild.

I don;t think stealing food from random ppl was in the rules but i could easily be wrong.. Vines could not have superior wpa, esp not superior enough for tornadoes. Plus DH could easily outhit him 2:1 with much better gains cos of GS
01-06-2009, 04:53
horroz0r

vines could've won with a better strat and activity, but his big mouth makes up what he lacks for.
I suspect that vines is one of the admins trying to attract more hits to this site. He's done a great job so far and the forum would be more boring w/o him.
<3 vines
01-06-2009, 05:19
LameBeaver

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vines could've won with a better strat and activity

Same as saying he couldn't have won since his strat and activity is worse.

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I suspect that vines is one of the admins trying to attract more hits to this site.

Be careful in formulating conspiracy theories 'coz this can be more harmful than intended.

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He's done a great job so far

..positively or negatively?...please elaborate.
01-06-2009, 06:04
_greenie

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Originally Posted by horroz0r

vines could've won with a better strat and activity

so... if vines could have won if he didnt play with his crappy strat, and had decent activity

or, basically, played like DH?
01-06-2009, 07:32
horroz0r

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Originally Posted by LameBeaver

Same as saying he couldn't have won since his strat and activity is worse.

not really.

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Originally Posted by LameBeaver

Be careful in formulating conspiracy theories 'coz this can be more harmful than intended.

so?

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Originally Posted by LameBeaver

..positively or negatively?...please elaborate.

as in getting you to be a part of the 400 moot posts in here.

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Originally Posted by _greenie

so... if vines could have won if he didnt play with his crappy strat, and had decent activity

or, basically, played like DH?

or if he kidnapped his way to victory.
01-06-2009, 10:18
LameBeaver

how about applying logic in your statement:

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Originally Posted by horroz0r

vines could've won with a better strat and activity, but his big mouth makes up what he lacks for.

So....
-If he had a better strategy and activity, anybody would've won.
-Vines Lost. ->Statement is True.
-Therefore....___________(fill in the blank).

Applying Modus Tollens (valid argument form 2)
p->q
~q
Therefore ~p

Logical conclusion is:
Vines had the worse strategy and activity. <-> DHaran's strategy and activity was better.

Edit:
got the logic premises wrong so edited it.
01-06-2009, 11:31
MorbidAngel

I think DH sucks ass and vines owns him big time. Counter argument this!
01-06-2009, 13:20
DHaran

hahahaha <3 MA

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or if he kidnapped his way to victory.

That would have been hard to do with his 2 tpa....

Not to mention he was probably nub enough to kidnap himself into overpopulation.
02-06-2009, 17:14
MorbidAngel

kidnap + tw = ftw
02-06-2009, 17:21
DHaran

Oh wait! I forgot, in vines-world, overpopulation doesn't exist. Damn, ya got me.

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