Age 50 final changes comments

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Originally Posted by Ordray

A quick question, do bounces spread the plague?

Undead are going to be trying not to oversend against oppponents if at all possible, and they're going to want to send out specs as much as possible so that they can be converted to elites, but that's going to leave elites at home, so they're going to want to save a general for the all elite army to either do another successful attack or just bounce since they don't lose elites when they attack, but they can still inflict casualties. Would make it even better to be an UD if they could spread plague like that... Don't think that you can spread the plague through bounces though, but I wanted a bit of confirmation.

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my bad, must have been really tired when I went over it +1 for you too, or an extra .5 for being first :p

As long as you don't go past "tough battle" you don't get a penalty though

The idea isn't to gimp your converts very hard by punishing you for oversending, its just to encourage you to send the right amount.

Questions:
1. Cleric looses are only on troops used in battles, not for thieves and wizzies. Am I right?
2. Peasants massacrated simplly dies, they don't transform in soldiers. Am I right?

Thanks!

yes and yes

Thanks. I'm also curious why is such a difference between Human and Avian elite (in terms of training cost). Also, Dwarf elite, which is weaker in my oppinion, it's 900 gcs. Are you sure this are the right values?

Different races have different elites - its for balance. Im not going to get into a massive analysis but if you look at human for example you see he's got an income bonus to balance out the cost.

And Dwarf has free buildings, which is a pretty significant eco bonus.

And a BE boost, thats another huge eco bonus and also helps the entire Province.

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Originally Posted by Ordray

That's what I was saying earlier, but in a slightly less clear presentation...

UD can spread plague around with that all elite side army, even if it is just a bounce, so there's an extra bonus for them to keep those elites out.

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I thought undead conversion would work on total ratio, not attack ratio.

The conversion rate is dependent on the % specs of your entire offensive army. The actual conversion number is a combination of the rate and the total specs sent. For example: 15% of 1000 specs = 150 elites converted, whereas 15% of 100 specs = 15 elites converted.

Since you want to convert as many of your specs into elites, you'll want to send as many specs as possible in the TM army, regardless of the conversion rate. I also suggested that you only use 3 generals for that attack and send your left over elites on either another attack or just bounce a TM so that you don't lose any if you're attacked by someone.
You gain 3 advantages from doing this (especially during war):
1.) You won't lose elites to attacks, only NS.
2.) You inflict casualties to the enemy province.
3.) You have the potential to spread the plague to the enemy through the either bounce or successful attack.

Hope that that clears it up a bit for you.

How does TW + AD work for faeries? Do half the pezzies who die from TW get revived as soldiers?

I'm pretty sure that that only applies to actual military units.

Animate Dead
Effect: Raises 50% of your dead troops into basic soldiers during your next defensive battle.
http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.ph...s#Animate_Dead

Town Watch
Effect: Every 4 of your peasants will defend your land with the strength of 1 soldier.
http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.ph...ics#Town_Watch

They still are not troops.

Exactly... "with the strength of" doent mean you are...