I don't know about that Goodwitch, next time I go to the loo I'll ask these people for permission.
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I don't know about that Goodwitch, next time I go to the loo I'll ask these people for permission.
Nope you are confusing Abs with Elit. No excuse is needed to rob a kingdom that you don't have a cf with and no excuse was needed for you to b2b bunnies, however if they robbed gold before you followed through on this b2b, then it was in a substancially equivalent level of conflict as sparta and pandas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
Objectively, this case is actually worse than last age. Last age, bunnies were fed gc and they DID NOT initiate any conflict after. CR initiated the conflict after bunnies got gc and CR had full control of choosing to be the aggressor against a kingdomt hat was fed gc. This age, Spartans was fed gc to be the aggressor against PI. The actions of CR and Sparta this age are worse than the actions of Sparta and Bunnies last age that CR massively gb'd Bunnies for.
This is utterly ridiculous.
It wasn't utterly ridiculous when a poor ghetto got GBed to **** last age though?
Should've thought of that last age. But TBB isn't top so who cares right? Nothing against CR though, they play their game their way and they try to win, as any KD should do. Just don't come out here talking about standards (goes for anyone in the top really).Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Since TBB got gbd for it last age Sparta should be gbd this age.
Im just saying.
Many KDs get funded, maybe they should make RoV a hostile only op since GC stock is a domineering factor in determining war winners in the top.
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Make that hostile from both sides.
or just stop the damn "funding" and let everyone fight theyr wars clean... so easy and yet so complicated
Even the more "clean" KDs in the top fund several KDs.
cesspool
FS got funded a couple of times while I was there as well, people justify their **** play because of some other **** play it's a never ending cycle but it's times like these when you see the top for what they are. You were the ones who GBed TBB last age anyway so you have no legs to stand on to act high and mighty either. Nobody posting here does yet some do it anyway.
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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
It was ridiculous then too and I did say so but you're right, I didn't do anything specific to stop it.
Then I'll post here. I haven't been funded and when members of my kingdom got caught stealing from the top they were attacked. I could never speak for the whole kingdom, but I think we're relatively clean. This is no great claim.
My understanding of the top is that farming has a deeper meaning than just sopping up acres against a hapless target. Farming is cultivating sustainable acres through smart horticulture. I explained the "pipes" system before. I don't see this as wrong, just a vampiric system.
Last age Spartans funded TBB into conflict with CR. Technically between two conflicts. Deal was TBB would give Spartans the acres they gained.
CR flipped their ****. Promises were made. Oaths were taken.
This age CR funds Spartans vs. Pi, same deal.
Tbh I can't fault Bart. He's a consistent guy. Cr should be disbanded. No point in it existing without zauper.
I keep hearing about how all top kds are all funding several other yet to be known kds. Can we get a list of all this excessive gc farming for acres that is going on cause I must have missed that this was a new standard in the top.
What kds have Emeriti funded for acres? What kds have wsk funded? What kds have BB funded? We know CR and Sparta do it on a regular basis but how about the rest? I hear FS got funded many times from Matija on these boards. Who funded them?
But seriously though I am curious whats the big deal. Is it the timing of it all thats the huge issue? Cause I can see that could look problematic. But otherwise how is this any different from "top kingdoms" "taxing" people. In a perspective this latter part can be more friendly, you pay for your acres instead of just straight out taking them cause you're in a superior postition.
BB funded several KDs while I played there, FS being one of them while I played in FS all to counter all the **** CR and Emeriti pull. Give me a break, seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shai
Oh I'm not giving names, those are mostly warring KDs etc. **** no.
Pre-OS merger I believe it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
But your reluctance to tell us the names of the warring kds makes me suspect you're lying and need Bart to come save you
Please move to new threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
Maybe I should call astron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
Please move to new thread!Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
(throwing my hat into he ring for modship)
I think you'd be a perfect fit, just like Sparta and CD. (I'm on topic!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
In relevant news. We're past 800 razes. Another RK.
Hey, congratulations! Just think you're 80% of the way to the 1k raze club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bananamancer2000
BB funded FS at least once that I have witnessed as I was their opponent. And yes I know I okayed SOME help, back then I still wanted to believe in all around fair play. ASF witnessed it too ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shai
SO.. Several mistakes were made in this conflict..
We waved CD hoping for war, then we realized that CD had big problems from above.. in the forums we read the back and forth between whining CD and Facist Spartans.. squabbling over Spartas right to CDs explore pool, as they be more powerful - and CD had the gall to ask for CF.. then CD jumped into war with Draft Punks - self proclaimed ghetto - and thought they might hide behind the 75% penalty, regardless of the autocratic Spartans wanting to reaffirm their superiority by actively interfeering in our war.. the win feels filthy, Sparta could have waited and then continued their campaign of terror against CD.. but no, they had to sully our war vic, by PKing several of CDs provinces.. anyways, this kind of vinsdictive **** is bad for the game, and you should all be ashamed.. CD for trying to negotiate from a position of utter wealness, Sparta for using everything at their disposal to influence our win. I like winning, but this tastes like ash..
Winning against CD is nothing to brag about bruh :D
War had nothing to do with gaining protection. Razes are uninfluenced, the thought was maybe that if CD commits to a war(and thus 3-5 days min of no hits or FG possible by CD) Sparta may show a modicum of decency and lay off. Instead all that happened is more razes and razekilled with no hope of growing the provinces. Rapidly approaching 1000 razes on us. Over half the kingdom RKed, Sparta dodging the only conflict left to them to continue their goal of disbanding.
You mean like offer a free and cease hits? Oh no wait, you were too busy plotting your revenge into our war with PI! I guess that hadn't went quite as you have planned. I like your spirit. Too bad it seems not everyone in your KD shares the same sentiment.
We posed no threat during our war, you well could have razed our mystics and chains AFTER war was over but we were in eowcf. Instead you chose to ruin 2 kingdom's war.
Sparta has now gained or destroyed more than the original total acres of CD.
We've asked you to CF us, even offering you 3k land, nothing, want to war in peace? Accept a free CF offer. We were supposed to war PI and you would have hit in - this is why you would not accept the later CF offers no matter what they might have been, you haven't seen us complaining about it, have you? Be honest to yourself and to the community.
How can you still be playing the victim card if you refuse to CF up and keep throwing out threats? Think about it, does your stance make any sense? Look around, people hate Bart, yet nobody is standing up for you, not even Panthira's Absalom friends can help her if she refuses to accept a CF and move on.
I've been throwing threats? Again, we started a war! Thus guaranting almost a full week of no growth, no ops, no hits. You RKed another 6 provs into war, including killing our monarch. It's beyond us moving on, this is unanswered malicious brutality. If we CF it gives legitimacy to this conflict as anything other than Bart's personal grudge. Not Sparta, not any kingdom should be able to get away with such bullcrap. I don't care if the mechanics allow it, this is game ruining and unjust. If none hear our pleas, that's just fine, we are unwavering. Raze us 10000 times.
The relations are open, your monarch keeps saying she will FG us or whatever. You are rerolling avians and mystics with ill intent. Not that it even matters! We have no way of actually proving your intentions which is exactly why we need a formal CF from you.
This makes me LOL. Where have I ever threatened any ops? Ever? The only "threat" was that you guys have a 17day irl meter you keep pushing up. That is not a threat, but a fact. Insanity from Sparta. Seriously. I am done after 3+ weeks of giving blank CFs, agreeing to land (with you, Matija), trying to talk to Bart many times only to have him up his little "deals" to make impossible CFs. I am to the point where I've given ridiculous CF offers back. Like, hey how about 20k land for us, since you have now taken/burned 100% of the land we started with almost 4 weeks ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
Oh and what shall reroll as? Hmmn? Would Sparta like to dictate that, too?
Nope, I'm here to see if it's possible to resolve these relations with a CF. If you say that it's not then there's not too much I can do, can I hun?
If you don't CF, we're going to razekill each province in your KD over and over. That is not a threat, but a fact. The only "threat" is that you'll also suffer public humiliation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Panthira
Haha!! Hysterical. I offered CFs without any conditions, giving land, etc... This was never about CFs for you.
See? This is what I mean. There's nothing to gain for him, he just wants us to bow down. What a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
Raze us 10000 times, "humiliate" us. I'm sure it's all such a lark for you. No matter how low you stoop, it'll never make you bigger.
Maybe if you didn't play in a manner that builds such incredible bad blood, you might not need to act this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
What way? With good intentions for everyone? I will always act this way no matter what anyone else does.
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...4/vBQYjC6f.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Bananamancer2000