Pew Pew vs Debauchery aka Strippers aka Mystical Maybe

Silva me and you don't compare to the likes of Proteus, once he has spoken, there is no retort. Doesn't matter than in the last 10 ages HoH averaged higher in Land rankings than Rage, or that Rage got outplayed last age when they tried to outplay HoH. Let's not forget their dealbreak with MW which happened at the very end of last age (so if we're going by, you are only punished in the age you deal broke) which means that they get no repercussions for the deal break. And yes Proteus it was a deal break...I got that from the monarch of MW, he said the deal was to give you guys 15k acres without retal and you would leave them alone for the rest of the age. Then on the last tick (before we hit..and we had made no such promise that we would not hit), you hit them 5 times, and it would have been more but for the issues of lag on the last tick.

Oh wait...Rage deal broke? What? No way....aren't deal breakers wrong and scummy and deserve to be gb'ed any chance they get? Wait...no. If it's Rage that rule doesn't apply because of some bs excuse...and if that doesn't work you can just spout some "Dude I'm Proteus" bs.

Give me a break :)

Rage only performs well when Absalom performs well. Theyre clueless to maneuver on their own without tag teams and road blocks. Giving credit where it is due, Rage knows how to pump, and given enough time, they can be quite deadly. But let's not pretend Rage has anymore skills beyond that.

labelled dealbreakers after one deal break?
Then what should you name Rage with multiple dealbreaks through their history?

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Originally Posted by alan03

labelled dealbreakers after one deal break?
Then what should you name Rage with multiple dealbreaks through their history?

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Rage of Absalom? Duh.

lol ZING

i honestly dont get all the forum talks about strippers.. they were open game in the ghetto, they were open game between warring kds, they are still open game for top kds.. i seriously doubt sanity of any person who would take them seriously & consider them to be treated as an honorable kd.. you basically create your own reputation & cant run away from it, no matter how many times you change your name or what tier do you play - because its your own character, bringing the problems.. please, just stop all these forum spamming as if they were a kd worth mentioning..

Beat rage , beat HOH b2b. took on pew pew right after. Pretty damn good kd if u ask me. Need more kds like this that don't just nap a cf all age but actually have the balls to war and wave and pull dirty moves. Like how it was back when bf was at its peak. Never knowing when u were going to get hit or waved so always having to be ready. None of this bs sitting on 40 draft all age sci pumping away.

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Originally Posted by Smitty87

Beat rage , beat HOH b2b. took on pew pew right after. Pretty damn good kd if u ask me. Need more kds like this that don't just nap a cf all age but actually have the balls to war and wave and pull dirty moves. Like how it was back when bf was at its peak. Never knowing when u were going to get hit or waved so always having to be ready. None of this bs sitting on 40 draft all age sci pumping away.

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pulling dirty moves doesnt make you 'pretty damn good kd', just fyi..

Well as Godly said in another thread. You focus on your best target and deal with it in the best possible way. So if that means NAPs, blocks and pump for Absalom then why not accept that it is the opposite for kds outside that environment :).

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Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

pulling dirty moves doesnt make you 'pretty damn good kd', just fyi..

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Not by itself, but I'm pretty sure he meant the general idea of playing aggressively, warring and winning said wars and using those war wins to advance to the top instead of what appears to be the usual status quo. I don't agree with everything the Dealbreakers have done, but I do kind of respect them a little more for that. Even though it's apparently not how most of the top 10 does things, it's a lot more challenging to win wars with sizeable opponents than to cease-fire almost everyone who's a threat and farm ghettos and science pump to climb the ranks.

Farore- great minds think alike. I think What strippers have dOne is great for the game ad hope a lot of other kds follow suite. 2-3 kds like them in the top 10 and watch the dynamics of the "leet" kds change. No more age long cf's , no more 10 weeks of whoring every kd will have to earn their acres. It's bs a kd can raise an 18k bank in opposed because any kd that can prevent it is cf'd..

I don't see how their behaviour is of such a great significance. They seem to be going into the "top 10 land farm" way.

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Originally Posted by Farore

Not by itself, but I'm pretty sure he meant the general idea of playing aggressively, warring and winning said wars and using those war wins to advance to the top instead of what appears to be the usual status quo. I don't agree with everything the Dealbreakers have done, but I do kind of respect them a little more for that. Even though it's apparently not how most of the top 10 does things, it's a lot more challenging to win wars with sizeable opponents than to cease-fire almost everyone who's a threat and farm ghettos and science pump to climb the ranks.

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they chose themselves to play by the rules of the top by agreeing to cf deals etc., they also chose to break their word themselves.. winning wars via backstabbing is not more challanging than beating any moderate warring kd or respectable by any bit..

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Originally Posted by alan03

labelled dealbreakers after one deal break?
Then what should you name Rage with multiple dealbreaks through their history?

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Name them. I haven't played at all since a few days before the end of last age but I see talk here by ex-hoh players claiming Rage deal broke MW but I haven't seen that talk from MW. If it was a dealbreak (which I haven't seen MW claim) then it'd be the first one I can recall. Nice try though by self proclaimed "**** stirrers" like jamin to deflect from his kingdom's dealbreaking by trying to attack Rage.

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Originally Posted by Realest

Rage only performs well when Absalom performs well. Theyre clueless to maneuver on their own without tag teams and road blocks. Giving credit where it is due, Rage knows how to pump, and given enough time, they can be quite deadly. But let's not pretend Rage has anymore skills beyond that.

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Rage has performed "well" essentially every single age since their creation many years ago. That is much harder than making a kingdom with a "one age only, win at any cost and by any methods" mantra that only lasted 2 ages.

Rage has been top 10 every single age they have existed. Prior to this age, only Coss had ever beat them in a war despite Rage having fought a LOT of wars. They've had many wars where they were caught early unprepared and at significant disadvantage by other top kingdoms and Rage still won the wars, often in dominating fashion. They've honor crowned, won several "combined crowns" when that was a somewhat interesting external ranking, and even been in the lead for a war win crown 3/4 of the way through an age. They've been gangbanged and 2v1'd many times resulting in serial defeat of the offending kingdoms in back to back (to back to back to back) wars.

Yes, when other alliances have dominated and systematically knocked Absalom kingdoms out of the top, Rage could have cut selfish deals to gain NAPS at the expense of allies to rank better, but never did so and was therefore on occasion beat down to the lower top 10. This is nothing to be ashamed of.

Rage has played with the goal of being the strongest kingdom on the server even above "going for crowns" and typically during the numerous times when we narrowly missed out on a crown, we could have beat the crowning kingdom in a fight. This isn't meant as an excuse for any lacking in crowns and no other kingdom has outperformed Rage in crowns or average rank during the full time frame Rage has been around.

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Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

i honestly dont get all the forum talks about strippers.. they were open game in the ghetto, they were open game between warring kds, they are still open game for top kds.. i seriously doubt sanity of any person who would take them seriously & consider them to be treated as an honorable kd.. you basically create your own reputation & cant run away from it, no matter how many times you change your name or what tier do you play - because its your own character, bringing the problems.. please, just stop all these forum spamming as if they were a kd worth mentioning..

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like it or not we are the most talked about kd in the server, as much as we hate that. just gotta deal with it mate.