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Why does everyone compare hostiles in our past where the other kingdom has actively hit back (often times at a 1 to 1, or more ratio), and compare it to a hostile where one kingdom hits the other with no retaliation, and no CF terms offered, accepted, or allowed by the aggressor kingdom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Cause you people dont seem to be self aware for one bit. You seem to believe that you are entitled to ****play but when other kingdoms do it towards you its "Oh no you cant do that its not okey!" Hypocrites I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmiedema
I'm sorry but this is just dumb. You're punishing them for having the patience to win a war they could win because it inconvenienced you? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
Oh man, this...
Yes Palem, this basically sums up their entire entitlement rationale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
It isn't nice to insult sheister in a thread dedicated to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Why is it not on FS to protect themselves through force or diplo? You champion the idea that goals are user defined so what is all this winning talk. Maybe Pyro doesn't think it's over yet. I really can't get on the Pyro is evil train on this one. FS did a good job and got their win. Now it looks like there is a price for how they accomplished it, big deal. If I wave someone and get much booty, I know I need to diplo and or be prepared to watch out for said booty providers later in the age when they might want that booty back.
Please name one instance where FS did more than 1 wave against a kingdom that did not hit us back in the duration of the hostile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Oh, I see how you people justify it now. "We didnt hit! So its okey for us to send Pyro at them" "They are hitting us back so its okey to harass them" etc. Well, I got an answer at least. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jmiedema
I believe I know atleast 2 jmiedema, one was last age when you smashed no.1 in honour just course they were smaller and you could, I do not believe they hit back and actually came to forum for help... They were shot down and told to grow or do same back next age.
I don't condone either FS play then or Pyros now, but as everyone says they are allowed and that's that. So take the hits from Pyro now, grow and come back at them.
You are claiming noone is whining but it's turning into it more and more, Pyro whine about the war and the length you went to to get the win (fair and very good win in my personal view), and now FS starting to whine about Pyro coming back at you after saying it didn't matter (yes they are razing and maybe don't have a real goal with it other then prep for Spartans), that doesn't matter though, fact is they are allowed to hit and wishes to deal you some damage.
I assume you are referring to Markers kingdom (SS). We waved them for honour, they retaliated fully, we continued to attack. Not the same situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
We did hit some kingdoms last age that didnt retaliate. We did 1 wave on all of them. They said they didnt want to fight and offered CF. We accepted CF after 1 wave (sometimes accepted it without even finishing the wave). Not the same situation.
Please name another situation where a kingdom did not retaliate against us and we relentlessly pummelled them into the ground. If you are going to say FS v ED, we were in an active hostile, then they wanted to back out of it, so we took more resources at the end. Not the same situation.
We have never done more than 1 wave against a kingdom that refused to retaliate against us. Period.
I'm not acre clingy other than it being a center of contention. I got some spies from a couple of people.
Neither am I bitter toward FS and I'd enjoy warring Sparta for the big ass humans. I'm 0-2 vs Sparta and always willing to stick my head in the meat grinder to see if I can jam it. Well, I'm 0-2 vs FS to so I look forward to future collisions there as well.
Usually these things come down to t/m comfort zones, so we'll see.
As I recall it you refused to war and dragging out the hostile for long time (until you had secured the win) hence ED had better things to do than going back and forth with you. But then you got butthurt and made ludicrous demands for "wasting time" lol. (you = FS)Quote:
Originally Posted by jmiedema
Your kingdom mate posts that you guys are after our land, honour and SCI, in my response I state that 4x raze will not give you land, honour or SCI. Is this all you can come up with?Quote:
Originally Posted by bombdigie
Your ignorance amazes me.
ACtually Gorash, it will net us more sci, land and honor as we continue. Crippling your ability to resist leads to easier and better feeding. That is why leeches have anesthesia to be better able to feed. That is why bot flies and other parasites generally do things to make it easier to feed.
Utopia does not allow my to drug you to take the pain away, so the only available is to cripple you for better feeding. Its really obvious if you think about it. You see, it does not matter if it takes us more hits to get it, what matters is that you can't hit back. :D
Errr are y'all contradicting yourselves? They aren't hitting, and yet you're razing because it reduces their ability to hit?
You're actually reducing your ability to gain off of them by putting them out of nw range of your provs :/
Jmiediva, stop crying. No more tears, only dreams.
Why don't you not worry about efficiency and just sit back, have a pint, and wait until the farm is done. We got like 2-3 weeks prep and before that we were farming all the kingdoms and now we farm FS because well they are cowards.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwuzi
No, a parasite keeps the host healthy because they are reliant on the host. Being a parasite would have been taking Sampuan's advice and did learns first while the provinces were in range, then go for the land/honour after.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
What you describe is a virus, where you destroy the host to get the life-force/resources you require and then move on to another host.
You are self admitting that you are a virus of utopia. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Dude that was me, I woke up and saw that I had no orders and I just felt like doing something. Your tears are delicious. I saw you had highest offense and all army home so I wanted to kill your offense so I could protect the rest of my kingdom from you possibly retaling but obviously you're nothing but a spineless farm. I didn't know that until you told everyone you were going to roll over like some nub.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorash
Since you guys keeping this thread active Ill repeat: release all your dspecs and bounce raze all your elites until you are land defense and we make this quick and easy.
So funny, big man has nothing but his forum words. Why don't you just do something about it. Like release all your specs and bounce raze all your elites.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmiedema
bombdigie, as much as i love your posts, cant you keep it to 1 post at the time? rather then spam the whole thread with repeated posts? makes it harder to read and a bit meh,
Jmiedema, I think you are remembering wrong, either way ED wasnt last age was it? and im sorry but again ill state the obvious, if you aint whining about being waved, what are you doing in here? the posts started well with FS actually making a lot of good points and not whining about being waved but confronting someone thats supposed to be friendlies, but now there is a lot of tears :/ - Ignore the trolling FS did good on the war and deserved the win despite what some say (mainly Pyro players), but they are in a position to farm you and to that i can only say Karma, it might not be exact same situation as you did to a few others over last 2 ages, but its as close as it can be and if you going to farm someone smaller even if they say no war, then you must expect someone bigger doing exactly same to you, whether or not they are hitting the way you would have.. Afterall its they choice how to take the resources just like it was yours in war/previous age onslaught of a smaller KD.
I agree with most of what you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
Surely though you can't compare this situation to us waving a kingdom, them waving us back, then them saying we don't want war so stop hitting us.
If a kingdom doesn't hit back and are willing to CF with terms protecting the aggressor, the hostile shouldn't last more than 1-2 waves max. That's what I'm saying.
Yes we have been involved in hostiles where the other kingdom decided they wanted to hit back, then got the worse end of the deal and decided they don't want to hit back any more. I see those situations as vastly different to this one.
And no I am not remembering wrong. SS hit us back quite a lot all while raising their stuff on the forums last age. We dont care about the fact we are getting hit, we just wish it was more clear what their desires were more than just "release all your defense and it will be done quickly" what are you bombdige a frikkin rapist? It has not been made clear whether or not *IF* we were to release our defense that you guys wouldn't just raze kill province after province out of spite.
Your kingdoms intentions are very unclear, and that is what is most concerning. We dont care about any of the rest of this other than lost time which both kingdoms are experiencing.
Again I'm also shocked that in an off-age that Pyro would decide this is a good time to destroy what was a good friendship between kingdoms, and burn the bridges afterwards. Not very superb strategy to do in a relaxed rebuilding age.
What tears? I'm stating simple facts, maybe try and read a post before hitting reply..Quote:
Originally Posted by bombdigie
4 bounces is plain stupid, you could have gotten 3 learns, sci and troops killed while I had no schools in. One tip for you: if you plan to war / keep this going, maybe start reading the Utopian Guide, a lot of useful information in there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
Actually you are plain stupid, Im 250% your networth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorash
Then you should distribute hits better, in fact you can also find that in the guide, it's called "rnw" - you should look that up. We have been so lucky so far, now you have learned off "rnw" we are in real trouble, oh boy...Quote:
Originally Posted by bombdigie
Let's not start name calling...
Start? Oh Palems you big softie you. Guchi guchi gu.
take your logic and leave immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwuzi
Isn't this one big happy family? :D
Stop telling me how to play. I do what I want. I mean why would I want advice from the guy I'm razing, rofl. I mean it got you to squeal in here didn't it? Didn't it? Mission accomplished!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorash
I looked up "rnw" in the guide and came up empty. What is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorash
Relative NetworthQuote:
Originally Posted by Wiliest
The farther away from a target's NW, the less you gain.
Ummm no. It is not a general truth that the parasite keeps the host alive. You are a silly person if you think that is how it works. Look up the difference between parasitism and mutualism. Then try again.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmiedema
Didn't FS always teach ppl, look at the chart, there isn't many targets around excluding those Cf-ed.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7ark
You should well expect the wave for war and should jolly grow and prep for the conflict, rather than simply hope for the best and stay blind. When ppl really start to act, then u cry foul and ppl being bigger, feeding on you based on whatever reason you can cook up with.
So now the situation appear in front of FS and yet FS cannot handle it but to whine in forum. Didn't Nesta make it clear that he wanna a b2b even before war ends? Blame your ownself and FS leadership.
Failing to diplo the correct way. Even end eowcf earlier with most underpump. Good luck...u really need to do what u preach..don't be a noob
What is 20k acres? BB won war with Birdie in Rd 1 and demanded a Rd2 too. The 20k acres that u mentioned is maybe only like 20-30% of thatQuote:
Originally Posted by s7ark
Feint is having the time of his life... Pyro and FS drama is literally 2 for the price of 1.
Feint is alive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leonidas