Bb vs em

My favorite part is after we chained Binar he cussed out Pan and kicked her from emeriti slack. Talk about a sore winner. With a 30-40% offense lead and up players you didn't gain more land than your free opening wave at min time, I see here you just lost what? 1/3 your land against BB at min time?

Your mole hit you 7 times OoP against orders, afked for war, then released troops after war. Not one person thought we were warring a top kd oop, good activity, unimpressive play. We play for fun, we don't need 25 of the most active players and the best simmers and strategists, that just gets you old and bitter like little Binny.

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Originally Posted by Bananamancer2000

My favorite part is after we chained Binar he cussed out Pan and kicked her from emeriti slack. Talk about a sore winner. With a 30-40% offense lead and up players you didn't gain more land than your free opening wave at min time, I see here you just lost what? 1/3 your land against BB at min time?

Your mole hit you 7 times OoP against orders, afked for war, then released troops after war. Not one person thought we were warring a top kd oop, good activity, unimpressive play. We play for fun, we don't need 25 of the most active players and the best simmers and strategists, that just gets you old and bitter like little Binny.

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I had fun that war, and I cursed out Panthira way before they chained me cause of her BS accusations, i hardly care if my own province gets chained i dont have a personal attachment to it in that way. Better me than someone I have to stay awake for and spamcall anyways. But Ill have to admit that the loss of fae acres sucked :P

something something biggest farmout something something

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Originally Posted by Binar

you misunderstand. We are very happy. We got the win and we PKed Nesta lol.

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Oh, good then lol

All BB acres were ripe for picking, given time.

I am confused why flogger talks but not Nesta?

I thought Nesta is leading pyro.

And instead of talking about past. Why not flogger plays utopia next age and war emerity to see who is the best?

So that we ghettos can watch the titans

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Originally Posted by JusticeLeague

Pls don't give bishop a chance to lock thread again like what he recently did on another.

Anyway, very nice match up war for both sides. It would be nice if either party can share with us the ops exchanges.
Hit wise, BB loves to start with a big raze before chaining while Emeriti hit as per norm.
And those massacre is brutal. Apparently, chained province who chose to keep offense and wizard and neglect every others suffer heavy losses from the massacre hits.

But besides the war, I am curious and like to ask the leaders from both kingdoms:
all along I thgt crowning is the top priority. but apparently this war and the earlier staring game seem to cost the chance of crown for both sides? is it worth? or the victory from the battles between the titans seem more worthy?

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I always found the big battles the most fun in playing, they are worth more than an imaginary crown.
I mean, look at what developed during this conflict. All that happens are farmouts and ****plays to try and win. The only ones making a chance for the win without the ****play are Sleepy, Emeriti and BB. The others can't handle the pressure nor do they even bother trying to get to their level.

So do we have a war summary? So many claims being thrown around ... were Emeriti really at 106k acres (or sub 100k) at any point?
How big was farm out?

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Originally Posted by mahrous

So do we have a war summary? So many claims being thrown around ... were Emeriti really at 106k acres (or sub 100k) at any point?
How big was farm out?

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yes we were 100kish at one time but at the same NW as them. You can call it a farmout i call it EoA saving them from getting farmed for real.

Do you have any proof backing up your 'real farming' claims? Just curiosity, not doubting your words :)

check intelsite :D check paper every 11 hours. should be enough proof

lol @ flogger v binar

When we do a europe meet next year (hopefully?!), binar should join! We can all get drunk together and exchange stories how bad we are

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Originally Posted by mahrous

Do you have any proof backing up your 'real farming' claims? Just curiosity, not doubting your words :)

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NW, us having more peons and 250k more troops on 60k less acres, and being able to take down whatever "big" prov in BB we want at will with NS/NM. Us chaining harder and actually killing troops.

Proof is in the pudding and a summary of the attacks traded wouldnt give you the correct story.

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Originally Posted by Palem

If we're only allowing posting based off intelligence we might as well just pack the whole forum up and call it quits

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Why should I get perm banned again? I fail to understand, sorry. It must be because I'm too dumb to post!

Nice war Emeriti as usual, BB - lol.

I checked intel that undead in Emeriti had 160k peons while the biggest province in BB had 68k, not really sure what goes in these wars, there were no resources available to FB any of that down or was the fail rate too high?

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Originally Posted by Binar

NW, us having more peons and 250k more troops on 60k less acres, and being able to take down whatever "big" prov in BB we want at will with NS/NM. Us chaining harder and actually killing troops.

Proof is in the pudding and a summary of the attacks traded wouldnt give you the correct story.

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I saw some ranting going on about a dude being called, not responding, then responding, logging in and not refreshing TW and ending up on 10ppa. Its those details that also make a big difference.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

I checked intel that undead in Emeriti had 160k peons while the biggest province in BB had 68k, not really sure what goes in these wars, there were no resources available to FB any of that down or was the fail rate too high?

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I thought you had a good basic knowledge of the game? You want to chain high peasant guys so you can get more troops to desert. Fireballing followed by a chain is bad.

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Originally Posted by protector

I saw some ranting going on about a dude being called, not responding, then responding, logging in and not refreshing TW and ending up on 10ppa. Its those details that also make a big difference.

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He didnt cast TW? We were sure he did, after he released 13k wizzards into pessies? If he didnt then he is lucky he even managed to get those bush armies out in the end :P

I understand that and that's why I ask, they could just TW the 150k peon one, right? Not really sure what pers Emeriti are running.
I saw Emeriti chaining your perhaps 4-6th in size, not your top, I mean 68k is certainly not 150k but still - was your top getting FBed at all or?

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Originally Posted by Binar

He didnt cast TW? We were sure he did, after he released 13k wizzards into pessies? If he didnt then he is lucky he even managed to get those bush armies out in the end :P

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I dont know the details, just saw some ranting going on about it. At some point he did set sitter and the sitter fixed it? As far as he still could. I'm still in the WA group but I hardly read it.
Like this morning I woke up to 1800 messages in that chat lol

@protje
i did ask binar to join us at oktoberfest this yr but nesta's little stunt 2 ages ago burned him too hard and he ignored me :< old sad man is sad.

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Originally Posted by astron

@protje
i did ask binar to join us at oktoberfest this yr but nesta's little stunt 2 ages ago burned him too hard and he ignored me :< old sad man is sad.

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Depends how lame you guys decide to be in the future, not rly interested in wasting time and money on people I dislike :P
That being said I cant rly say im still angry over that, its getting kinda old

I find it weird you guys fight. Shouldn't you be busy hating Sparta or something?

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

I find it weird you guys fight. Shouldn't you be busy hating Sparta or something?

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Why ? No need to hate Sparta now that you aren't there.

That's good! I was just going of the fact BB used to hate on them while I was actually in BB :)
You are Fury can now even share Matija hate stories, are you already setting up a collaboration?

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Originally Posted by Binar

Depends how lame you guys decide to be in the future, not rly interested in wasting time and money on people I dislike :P
That being said I cant rly say im still angry over that, its getting kinda old

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I don't think I'd pass up meeting someone over something ingame :p

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Originally Posted by protector

I don't think I'd pass up meeting someone over something ingame :p

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Think carefully!

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Originally Posted by protector

I don't think I'd pass up meeting someone over something ingame :p

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was more the lying outside the game about ingame stuff that had me twisted the wrong way :P
and I didnt rly have time this year, busy renovating :)

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Originally Posted by Elit

If no one set Bin Bin for siter Emeriti have better chances for win based to kingdoms war history past ages.

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I still can predict wars correct ! :)

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Originally Posted by Elit

I still can predict wars correct ! :)

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haha
but I played 2 provs all war :P
Nesta was the one dying so I formally hand over that hat to him :)

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Originally Posted by Binar

haha
but I played 2 provs all war :P
Nesta was the one dying so I formally hand over that hat to him :)

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You won because you killed Nesta, if he have taken you down first result will be reversed.

Its basic rule when 2 ghettos war: Take enemy king down and you will win war! ;)

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Originally Posted by Elit

Its basic rule when 2 ghettos war: Take enemy king down and you will win war! ;)

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They say in chess, you gotta kill the Queen and then you mate it.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

They say in chess, you gotta kill the Queen and then you mate it.

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so bin gonna mate nesta ?

Kinda funny how BB always pretend to win without always winning.

2 ages ago when BB stayed in war at EOA to block us and hand a farm crown to Barcolo they claimed to have won inspite being farmed in war and losing 40k land and being downs millions of NW.

Now BB ends up doing a hit and run and WDs and calls that a win also?

Ever since WW bonuses were implemented no actually needs to hit and run to win, they just win by winning the war and getting massive game generated bonuses. In this meta why would anyone who is actually WD when they can get the win and huge WW bonus. Considering every one of BBs provinces was chainable and we’ve easily taken down provinces > 200% our attacker NW it was only a matter of time until Bb was 50% our NW and farmed out but they decided to wd prior to that happening and avoid the embarsssment. Makes sense.

So losing land in war and getting farmed is winning and giving your opponents the WW is winning too according to BB. I guess being BB = always winning.

Flogger talks about hitting and running to win a crown yet how does hitting and running to finish T5 in land charts look? In this case BB doing a max gain wave and running with acres doesn’t get them a crown so that’s a moot point. The funny is we waved BB all home and gave up the disadvantage of being chained by them 2x prior to us being home had they actually declared but they chose not to declare right away, we put ourselves in a disadvantage and still won.

BB actually had an inside track to crowning for a while now, we started this age with 22 provs and did not use pool until Y5/6 while BB has been #1-2 a good part of the age but still managed to lose due to noobplay.

I really don't understand why anyone would dislike you Proteus. You are a man who speaks his mind worthy of praise :D

Hmmm I guess nw protection really ain't what it used to be? I have not opted across that nw distance yet since Chris and Dave said they changed nw protection. So what rate loss was there across 60% nw for ops?

I don't think NW protection at that range ever meant hey I'm an UB attacker against 7 faeries now because my NW is high? Of course it's even worse now...
Ever being my short Utopian life span.

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Originally Posted by Sheister

Hmmm I guess nw protection really ain't what it used to be? I have not opted across that nw distance yet since Chris and Dave said they changed nw protection. So what rate loss was there across 60% nw for ops?

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If you read the presage changes you’d know that. I was laughing a lot when you kept on posting how Bb will win / is winning since the start of this thread without having a clue.

I sadly have to agree with Proteus, if I saw this war as over for BB being the noob that I am I'm unsure what everyone else was looking at. Might be considered rude posting it like that but it is what it is...

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

Think carefully!

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There are always exceptions. You might just be that one

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Originally Posted by Proteus

If you read the presage changes you’d know that. I was laughing a lot when you kept on posting how Bb will win / is winning since the start of this thread without having a clue.

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Nobody takes sheister serious. Do you?

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Originally Posted by Proteus

If you read the presage changes you’d know that. I was laughing a lot when you kept on posting how Bb will win / is winning since the start of this thread without having a clue.

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If you actually though about what I wrote instead of looking for a "zinger" you would realize I always was saying I was guessing as I looked at zero Intel and I had no idea how ops were going. To me, if ops pace and attrition rate of thieves and wizards was only 10% different from where it was, then BB had a decent chance of solidifying the top and getting Econ going. If it was improved beyond that, then probably not. My last post I made when I saw your 12 k undead on 119nwa acres compared with 174 nwa on 17 k acres, I thought that bb may have cushion to massacre.

Just guessing from outside man. No need to try to be competitive with any analysis I made. I was just guessing with the limited data I had.