Mercy vs Pulse round 2.

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

Dont think they will war this age.

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mercy and sword have already warred this age :p

So , pulse beat mercy ?

its a stall tactic. Sanctuary is actually going to war the war.

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Originally Posted by LightNing

since when are you such a flogger & co fanboy Palem?

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I'm not*.
99% of the fun is watching DHaran try and play "Damage control" on Mercy's first loss. It's not a big deal. You warred them, couldn't quite pull it out, you lost. Some times good kds lose wars too. Instead some vines-like logic is put in place to draw out every excuse imaginable to "justify" the loss or whatever. It's very amusing.
1% is lulz at abs.

*if curdie were in the kd, I would be a 100% GT58 fanboy

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Oh so now you're saying that the best kingdom on the server is always the one who finishes ahead? I guess HoH was the best kingdom on the server last age, silly me for not realizing that! Also, I didn't say we were better quality than Pulse, I asked if it was your ridiculous opinion that a stronger kingdom has never lost a war.

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HoH was the best kd on the server last age. They won. That's the whole point of the game. They beat Rage and Sanctuary.

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Originally Posted by John Snowstorm

why can't you just say it was a good, hard fought war and leave it at that without making disingenuous excuses. Mercy is best kd we have fought this age by a wide margin, you don't need to do this sh*t.

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That would be admitting a loss. An absolute impossibility!

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Originally Posted by DHaran

And I've said a dozen time Pulse and Mercy are the best kingdoms on the server, and I've not once claimed we were better. I am simply rebutting claims that losing a war proves I'm in a weaker kingdom, and as I explain my opinion on why we lost a war, I don't consider this to be giving excuses, simply my point of view on the outcome. If Mercy wins this war, I still wouldn't say we're a better kingdom, because it's been about as dead even a crown race as I've seen personally, so I wouldn't claim ultimate eipc pwnage dominance if we come out on top, that would just be stupid. I said a dozen times the war was well fought and very even but we couldn't come out with the win, which I congratulated you guys for. The unwarranted hostility is a bit baffling to me, but it doesn't bother me in the least so if you wish to continue, by all means feel free.

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I'm not claiming GT58 is like in a different stratosphere of l337ness or something.
You lost a 1v1 war. You're behind in the charts despite very strong arguments that you have had a nearly identical age as GT58. Both measures of comparisons are totally valid.

If Mercy wins I'm happy to say that Mercy is the better kd, but the burden is most definitely on Mercy to prove they aren't the worse kd.

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Originally Posted by TheRock

Palem hates Absalom, mostly because dorje called him out on a lie

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False on all accounts.
I don't "hate" abs, though I do certainly enjoy watching their failures. Likewise, I have absolutely no problem with Rage, Mercy, and 96% of Sanctuary.
TFC never tried to crown.
Not why I don't like jdorje. You can keep guessing though. One of these days you guys might actually get it right :D

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Originally Posted by brickwolfman

mercy and sword have already warred this age :p

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Topic is about second war!
I think Mercy objective calculate his chances and for this they will avoid war again to keep face.

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Originally Posted by Palem

HoH was the best kd on the server last age.

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lol I don't even have to respond because you've just lost all credibility.

I'm sorry if you can't understand that alliances are a strategy and that there are downsides to them.
HoH benefited, Rage and Sanctuary lost out.


Or would you rather just completely ignore strategy and results and rather just claim whichever kd you like best as the winner?

DHaran has never been in a crowning kingdom. Forgive him for not knowing how it works.

...I....erm....:(
lol

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Originally Posted by Palem

I'm sorry if you can't understand that alliances are a strategy and that there are downsides to them.
HoH benefited, Rage and Sanctuary lost out.


Or would you rather just completely ignore strategy and results and rather just claim whichever kd you like best as the winner?

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And apparently you want to declare a kingdom who benefited from a 100k acre intentional farmout as the "best", lol. And I suppose you'll claim that TFC is the 6th best kingdom in Utopia right? You have about the worst thought process I've encountered recently, lol. And you want to say I have vines-logic, comical. I also like how you are dodging my questions. I asked if you believe a better kingdom has never lost a war in the history of Utopia, I await your response.

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Originally Posted by octobrev

DHaran has never been in a crowning kingdom. Forgive him for not knowing how it works.

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Don't need a crown to know who the best kingdoms are. Unless you want to also say HoH was the best kingdom on the server last age, I'd love to hear you say that.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

lol I don't even have to respond because you've just lost all credibility.

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"I say I dont have to respond but I do it anyway"

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Originally Posted by DHaran

And apparently you want to declare a kingdom who benefited from a 100k acre intentional farmout as the "best", lol. And I suppose you'll claim that TFC is the 6th best kingdom in Utopia right? You have about the worst thought process I've encountered recently, lol. And you want to say I have vines-logic, comical.

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It was that age, thats how it works, the one that is number 1 is the best kingdom out there that age. Perhaps you dont like it but personal opinion hardly matters in this case.

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Originally Posted by Korp

It was that age, thats how it works, the one that is number 1 is the best kingdom out there that age. Perhaps you dont like it but personal opinion hardly matters in this case.

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Even though I know you don't think that, and you're again just arguing for the sake of it, I'll quote it anyway for future reference.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

And apparently you want to declare a kingdom who benefited from a 100k acre intentional farmout as the "best", lol. And I suppose you'll claim that TFC is the 6th best kingdom in Utopia right? You have about the worst thought process I've encountered recently, lol. And you want to say I have vines-logic, comical. I also like how you are dodging my questions. I asked if you believe a better kingdom has never lost a war in the history of Utopia, I await your response.

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That's weird, I'm pretty sure putting yourself in the right place at the right time and farming out bad kds is the EXACT thing that good kds try to do. You farmed out a bad kd earlier this age. If you win your crown is it forfeited because of that? If Rage wasn't allied with HoH, they could have famed those acres back out of HoH, but their strategy of allying themselves with HoH backfired on them and they lost what was otherwise pretty secure crown.

And no, sometimes the better kd loses. But the better kd comes back. The "best" kd has never finished an age 0/2 and 5th place.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Oh so now you're saying that the best kingdom on the server is always the one who finishes ahead? I guess HoH was the best kingdom on the server last age, silly me for not realizing that!

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yes the best kingdom on the server is the one who gets the crown, because one way or the other they outplayed the rest of their competition. HoH unlike absalom has dealt best with simians situation and they gained as was to be expected (since simians clearly stated they would farm to HoH if absalom did certain things to them).