so much hate :(
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so much hate :(
keep turtling man..
I disagree completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle Man
1) The time needed is not much. During a wave it takes 10 mins to gather intel and a couple of seconds to hit. At war it takes even less to run ops and hit.
2) Being there when armies are home is easy. Most kingdoms will run enough rax for 12 hour return times oow, and in war you can easily tweak things so you avoid too much downtime.
3) Bots tracking armies just means council can organise chain targets better, as they can see who has armies returning soon with big offense etc. I don't see anything sinister about it.
4) If you are late for a hit then yes, you should expect to be asked why. If I am going to be late for a hit I tell the rest of my players. I dont wander in 4 hours after the wave time and pretend nothing happened. (ok, sometimes I do - but i make sure to chastise myself quite harshly)
People quite often over-estimate the amount of time needed to play in a top kingdom
Turtle Man, if you think having a life and playing in a top kd can't be combined, then you've never played in a kd good enough to be called top. Being organized lessens the activity requirements greatly, and it becomes more about being "available". You don't have to sit by the computer 24/7, you just have to be prepared for sometimes having to go check in for 10 minutes.
Most ghetto players are unaccomplished. There are very few that can go straight into a better kd without being "educated", regardless if they already fill the activity requirements. I've taken in ex monarchs of mid tier kd's into my kd's before, expecting them to be able to handle themselves, and then seeing them play like total nubs. Of course there are exceptions. I've had players come in from ghettoes and compete with the best immediately, but in general ghetto players lack understanding of the things that seperate top kd's from the rest (mainly organization).
It frightens me how many people can play this game for years and barely learn anything about it, despite some of them spending a lot of time in it.
you never know he might have played in a top kingdom ..... as long as its not a top "war win" kingdom .... it just sounds like the poor ****er got a micromanaging dickhead for a monarch ..... it happens and it sucks if it happened to him.
Just keep banging away turtle dood you might get lucky and end up with a decent monarch.
The only true difference between a top kingdom and a ghetto really is the social activity outside of utopia in forums/irc/icq/msn
Turtle Man is a noob, nevermind him imo.
lol, you guys are acting like i am coming down on SKDs, if you see what my main argument was in response to players in lower KDs being unaccomplished. My temporary time in the KD was not bad at all, i met some really cool people who did have an RL, so i also never said it was impossible. People are overly conclusive with their tunnel-brain conclusions, my argument was simply that just because someone DOESNT play in a top KD does not mean that they have no idea what the hell they are doing.
As far as my monarch currently? Understanding that my family is first, business second and utopia fits in with the rest of the third, so he is my ideal monarch. Our general tries to fit wave times around when most can wave, the rest of us join in at next available moment. Is there a reason these forums flame up so quick? Its incredible to see how people flame up so quick.
Well sounds like the qoute #1 kd is about ignorant as hell.
I wonder if there are any standards or code of conduct in the game any more. Makes you kind of miss Mehul.
Well, one thing's sure: The way the game works now, 10 min (twice) a day is no where near enough. Searching targets/casting spells now takes hours.
add try getting rid of ****ing plague to that time span as well
Lol @ Turtle Man. Let's check what you wrote:
So here you imply that the only difference between ghettoes and skds is activity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle Man
Need I even comment on this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle Man
Right. I think I'm starting to understand what the problem is here. You played in a kd you thought was a top kd, and couldn't manage the activity requirements. Then you generalize that experience and think that's what it's like in every top kd.Quote:
Being there when armies are home and having bots tracking down when your armies return and how long your armies have been idle at home and having someone trying to ask you to explain your reasoning for being late, that is a lot to ask of someone with family and a real job.
You speak out of ignorance, and that's why people jump on you. I don't know why that's surprising to you.
Ghettoes aren't ghettoes because they're not as active, they're ghettoes because they have limited understanding of the game, and lack organization.
fyp. This is the only thing I have gotten out of this entire thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yadda9To5
watch out for KuhaN once again!
Luc thank u breaking that down and demonstrating your sheer stupidity, and i am not 'surprised' about people jumping on my opinions, its what these forums are about, the flamers are part of these forums, not rationale.
My first quote, the last thing it implied was what u mentioned, have u forgotten what this thread is about u mindless moron? The whole argument to begin with is about an SKD going to war with a ghetto...if they are so unaccomplished and with 'limited understanding,' than why is the top KD going after them? the quote was wrapped around the idea of honor and doing the right thing.
My quotes and opinions were only aimed at anyone suggesting that ghetto players have no idea what they are doing, how can u conclude that about all ghetto players? Your overly conclusive and pretty much **** for brains if you cannot understand my simple words. However, rationale isnt a requirement to post in these forums, so i wouldnt expect you to live up to it.
So since you are so keen on trying to break down my comments, let me just re-state my original idea for your loser self: A ghetto being pushed to the limit and bugged into a war against the top KD, the situation just seems to sticky and unsettling.
You know it's funny when stupid people call others stupid. Say something stupid and people will call you out for it. You calling them flamers doesn't make you any less stupid, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle Man
No, the problem is that you don't seem to ever have understood what they thread is about. Sonata is not going after anyone. They saw a chance to get free growth and took it. It never had anything to do with measuring how accomplished anyone is or isn't. Sonata wants growth, small kd waves them and gives them button, Sonata gets growth. You're truly naive if you think everybody's gonna live by some rules that says you can only fight people who can beat you, and that regardless how hostile your opponent is, you can't touch them because they're weaker than you are. Get real, moron.Quote:
My first quote, the last thing it implied was what u mentioned, have u forgotten what this thread is about u mindless moron? The whole argument to begin with is about an SKD going to war with a ghetto...if they are so unaccomplished and with 'limited understanding,' than why is the top KD going after them? the quote was wrapped around the idea of honor and doing the right thing.
You're the one who said the ghetto players are "probably" not unaccomplished, but just choose to play on that level. Anyone with any experience of trying to bring ghetto players into top kd's knows your generalization is plain retarded. I never concluded anything about "all" ghetto players, learn how to read.Quote:
My quotes and opinions were only aimed at anyone suggesting that ghetto players have no idea what they are doing, how can u conclude that about all ghetto players? Your overly conclusive and pretty much **** for brains if you cannot understand my simple words. However, rationale isnt a requirement to post in these forums, so i wouldnt expect you to live up to it.
Rationale is not a requirement? So I guess that's why you don't live up to it? You bring generalizations based on tunnel vision and limited experience, and that's supposed to pass for rationale?
Generalization 1: Players in SKDs cannot have a real life outside the game. This generalization is invalid because you clearly don't have the experience to say such a thing. There are plenty of players out there to prove you're wrong, but then I doubt you ever even played in a top kd.
Generalization 2: Ghetto players are good, they just don't play in top kd's because they can't/won't be active enough. A ghetto player claiming that ghetto players are good. Wow... If you actually had a useful perspective and experiences to build on, somebody might believe you.
Pushed to the limit? I lack words for describing how low I think your intelligence is. If you sit in a ghetto with mostly defense and let big kd's hit you for free, you're dumb to expect they won't come back and feed on you again. If your goal is to grow, you don't hit people who are likely to hit back. If your idea of honor prevents you from playing like that, then good luck ever accomplishing anything in either utopia and the real world. There's a funny "duel" scene in one of the indiana jones movies you should watch.Quote:
So since you are so keen on trying to break down my comments, let me just re-state my original idea for your loser self: A ghetto being pushed to the limit and bugged into a war against the top KD, the situation just seems to sticky and unsettling.
Your idea of argument seems to be to first introduce a bunch of ignorant generalizations, and then when people bite and argue back you call them stupid and think that confirms that you were right. That's just beyond retarded.