something I find odd. . .

I think it is great that you guys are talking able me as if I were some myth. However lets keep to the topic. Why are t/m wanted more than attackers? Attackers are what win wars not t/ms. Now I will say t/m can weaken an attacker. And this is something all attackers should learn. The need to have enough tpa and wpa so when t/ms do come knocking they have protection. A lot of new players want to play attacker and they got people giving them bad advice. An attacker needs to have high tpa and wpa if they want to keep the land they take during war. T/m game play is passive you wait until a target is weaker than you to attack. However with stronger more skilled players that rarely happenes. So the t/m becomes **** out of luck. With an attacker's game play it is proactive. You take their land and force them to fight back or admit defeat. That's the great thing about t/ms as long as they do weaken you too much they won't attack you. And imo that's a big flaw.

You are a myth, to speak your name in more than a whisper = poof you may disapear.

If you guys and gals don't keep to the topic I will have to start reporting posts.

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Originally Posted by V1nes

So today I just got my daily activey to 3 boxs. And so I went to the lobby to see the recruitments. I figured there would lots of kingdoms looking for an attacker that has 3 boxes in every category. To be an attacker takes a lot more skill than to be a t/m. Yet the only spots that wanted lots of game knowledge and experience were for t/m. It is easy to be a t/m that can do well. Very difficult to be an attacker that can well. Just seems very odd to me.

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Let me check the recruitment thread for you:

http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...ho-want-to-war

These guys kicked the KD's butt that I was in last age. They manage 100+ attacks per day. Pretty impressive
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...raft-wants-you

These guys want you to take over an UD Cleric! I doubt that is a T/M spot.
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...sks-Recruiting

"Army in-Army Out?" sounds like an attacker that they are looking for
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...275-WarSeeKers

These guys war a lot. About everyone has heard of them. I highly recommend them. If you go, Tell 'em "Crazyguy sent ya" :D
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...ooking-for-few




This one is definitely you:
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...-is-recruiting.

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Originally Posted by V1nes

I think it is great that you guys are talking able me as if I were some myth. However lets keep to the topic. Why are t/m wanted more than attackers? Attackers are what win wars not t/ms. Now I will say t/m can weaken an attacker. And this is something all attackers should learn. The need to have enough tpa and wpa so when t/ms do come knocking they have protection. A lot of new players want to play attacker and they got people giving them bad advice. An attacker needs to have high tpa and wpa if they want to keep the land they take during war. T/m game play is passive you wait until a target is weaker than you to attack. However with stronger more skilled players that rarely happenes. So the t/m becomes **** out of luck. With an attacker's game play it is proactive. You take their land and force them to fight back or admit defeat. That's the great thing about t/ms as long as they do weaken you too much they won't attack you. And imo that's a big flaw.

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If you think that T/M is easier, you just don't know how to do it properly. For one thing the guide doesn't break down how many thieves to send for max gains like it does with attacker. You have to be more active then attackers to do it properly. Part of what a T/M has to do is provide needed resources and support for attackers, so you have to sit and wait on IRC for them to log in, and send them what they need so that they can attack. You also have to keep track of duration ops and enemy resources.

I'm guessing that you have seen the flipside of that. There are plenty of PPL who sit back dice and explore, turtle up and call themselves a T/M, but they are not. They are self-serving dead weight.

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Originally Posted by Crazyguy

If you think that T/M is easier, you just don't know how to do it properly. For one thing the guide doesn't break down how many thieves to send for max gains like it does with attacker. You have to be more active then attackers to do it properly. Part of what a T/M has to do is provide needed resources and support for attackers, so you have to sit and wait on IRC for them to log in, and send them what they need so that they can attack. You also have to keep track of duration ops and enemy resources.

I'm guessing that you have seen the flipside of that. There are plenty of PPL who sit back dice and explore, turtle up and call themselves a T/M, but they are not. They are self-serving dead weight.

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Amen:)

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Originally Posted by Palem

Most likely guess would be that he gave out the password to someone who took it over and then changed the password.

Or it's just a poor imposter :(

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Or Bishop doesn't know how to perm ban ;)

Its easy to be a good T/M, it's harder to be a great T/M.
It's easy to be a great attacker, it's harder to be a good attacker.

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Originally Posted by Crazyguy

If you think that T/M is easier, you just don't know how to do it properly. For one thing the guide doesn't break down how many thieves to send for max gains like it does with attacker. You have to be more active then attackers to do it properly. Part of what a T/M has to do is provide needed resources and support for attackers, so you have to sit and wait on IRC for them to log in, and send them what they need so that they can attack. You also have to keep track of duration ops and enemy resources.

I'm guessing that you have seen the flipside of that. There are plenty of PPL who sit back dice and explore, turtle up and call themselves a T/M, but they are not. They are self-serving dead weight.

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Totally agree.

Actually, being a good T/M is very hard (and most people, especially in ghettoes) go T/M for entirely wrong reasons.
Being a bad T/M is easy.

The micromanaging alone is a killer... then you have to make sure your prov runs well for wars/conflicts and outside (and even during war) of those you need to be able to aid properly... It might be easy to cast/op... but being able to build a province
and protect it... a whole different ball game.

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Originally Posted by csarmi

Being a bad T/M is easy.

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I can confirm this.

When do I get my 1v1 v1nes

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Originally Posted by csarmi

Actually, being a good T/M is very hard (and most people, especially in ghettoes) go T/M for entirely wrong reasons.
Being a bad T/M is easy.

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Being a t/m is easier with less strict activity requirements than being an attacker, and pretty much always has been. It is easier to be a good t/m than a good attacker.

Depending on the person it's 50/50.