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If one side gives me their paper I can pull alot of information out of it and produce a decent unbias article
you guys don't see all the extra adjectives he put in there that were unnecessary?
He complimented the simians over and over.
I am not a province in undercity.. i just appreciate the good quality articles that I've been reading in these forums until now,
and I spoke my mind.. and other people agree with me.
Let's look at all the unnecessary words used in this section (in italics):
and it goes on. In my opinion, 90% of those extra words don't compliment Simians, they are just this reporter trying to spice things up. He could have just written, "Another ruby was sent by Simians that wasn't slain by Undercity. FB, MS, storms, and chastity were used by Simians which they thought helped them win the war," but he didn't want it to be boring so he added extras. Simians won and they provided the details, so of course it's going to seem biased. If you read a newspaper article about a football team, and the only thing the reporter knew about it was what one player from the winning team told him, I'm sure people would think that article was biased. Give the reporter a break. I sure had fun reading it even though I'm not a Simians fan.Quote:
they quickly put a new Ruby Dragon egg into their Dragon Egg Incubator 2012 and launched it with great haste. Due to this swift arrival of this new dragon, the denizens of The Undercity were too terrified as they thought that the first Ruby Dragon had awoken from the dead like an undying monster and failed to slay this beast. Despite having the intelligence level of apes the Simians rained fireballs, meteor showers, storms and chastity like wise Archmages
why are you looking at one section when we are referring to the entire article?Quote:
Originally Posted by lastunicorn
gg no re
fear give it a rest wtf..... go read a different article then
Fear9, over the ages we probably had 50 war articles up. Counting AR, Utimes, Temple and now these forums.
We had our fair share of wierd, inaccurate and biased articles. There was even wars where the reporters did not try very hard to find us and posted articles up without us even able to provide info. We had our fair share of people badmouthing us after bad articles. I prefer if the article is made in a way like LastUnicorn posted. It provides accurate info about the war. There is no real need for stories. I want to see strategy.
But what i am trying to say is that this was only one article. It might be biased since HoH did not provide info. We been there also. It does not work like that if you want to have an unbiased article you better have someone talk to the reps
ok Anri
I always misspell Anri too
Fear my name. i kill you all... bahhh, i am so bored at work!!!
IDK who undercity and simians are tbh, but when doing diplo for HoH and we did not want to participate in war articles, as we often didn't 'cause we rlly didn't care who knew about it either way win or lose, we just wouldn't do the interview and the article wouldn't get written. IDK what is going on here, why an article would get written without both KD's consent, but I guess simians just wanted us all to know that they won their first war of the age and would be super crushed if the article wasn't written considering their post about it in the other thread. . . So yeah, let the monkeys have their validation, but not so much at the expense of the other KD since they chose not to involve themselves, and if it is HoH, who never even gets involved in these war articles anyway, it's really nothing new, they wouldn't have gotten involved in the interview even if they had won, unless of course Takeshi our mouth was still there.
GL everybody
Undercity is HoH no doubt about it.
And BBB, an wararticle after you beat what was the #1 KD is nothing out of the ordinary.
We cant help if HoH refuse to participate in any articles.
BBB have you retired?
its almost like Sk saying they arnt SK when everyone knows its SK lol
congrats on the WW anri - sorry its so late!
So free press should be stifled because quite often the losing side doesn't like providing any information....
Ok yeah lets let these people ruin all the hard work that has been put in to get these news articles up and running....
Wait lets not do that, if you don't like being reported on, discuss it as a war term, otherwise don't war and it won't happen
If we want info, we'll get it regardless, just takes effort and impeccable time management. Snatch News is a very easy op
"Hall of Heroes, the alleged lapdogs of Absalom. " Stuff like this has nothing to do with news and doesn't add any accuracy or objectivity to the article.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malm
I mean I've been a reporter before, I would say it's the reporters job to be diplomatic and objective so he can maintain good relations from his news sources. I don't think comments like that helped at all, no?
And about criticism, lol if you can't handle it don't be a writer. I mean why are you writing anyway, good articles will get the praise it deserves. =)
Just my 2 cents.
Hi BBB <3Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackBackBeagle
Anri, not when I was in HoH, we never lost once to you. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
Anyway good win.
and never warred us without a huge bank and being 140% our nw... lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tak3shi
Anri, I'm busy w/ school atm, not much time for utopia.
Also, I wasn't saying that if one kd doesn't participate there should be no article whatsoever, only along the lines of what takeshi was saying, the writer should have shown a bit more judgement rather than throwing in name calling like "lapdogs of absalom" and then sit around and wonder why HoH doesn't participate in these articles. . .
Don't blame the reporter for a kingdom lacking the ability or care to represent themselves. We represented ourselves. If you don't like the style or don't think an article should be written because one side refuses cooperation, then that is too damn bad. Grow up - all of you.
Quote me on being upset about criticism please. Sounds like the only upset person is you. You can call me a Nazi for all I care, I won't even frown.Quote:
Originally Posted by tak3shi
NB: I compile all criticisms for future article writing.
I don't mean to jump in here, but that last bit was unnecessary..Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck
Why do you try and hold the moral high-ground over everyone because they don't agree with you?
Personally, I think being professional as a News Reporter is important. You are writing for a community. Limited available resources or not, you have to maintain complete balance when producing an article.
News Reporters are meant to be neutral party's, so why should they be able to say things with subliminal-biasing?
That article was biased. There is no doubt about that. It is fact. Regardless of whether it is true or not that they are "lapdogs", or that their propaganda was "pointless", It is biased..
Not only could you be equal by saying something like "honorary propaganda", but the fact that it wasn't pointless if they did it to recover honor... There's the point.. To recover honor..
On a side-note, however, I'm not taking sides, nor am I trying to flame the News Reporter- or anyone else for that matter. I am merely standing by fact.
Congratulations on the War Win, Simians.
LOL?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck
Reporters should be impartial. Simians has no reason to be, obviously. The reporter should have taken what you gave him and written it as an objective article. If he wanted to give your perspective, he's welcome to do so. He didn't.
Let's take the most glaring example...
"Since kd tags are not up yet, Simians KLA hoped to have hit the jackpot and prayed that The Undercity was actually Hall of Heroes, the alleged lapdogs of Absalom."
He didn't say that Simians alleged that HOH is the lapdogs of Absalom. To properly report it would be to say that Simians alleged that HOH were the lapdogs of Absalom. As written, it's not impartial.
You can still write balanced articles, even if one side doesn't give any perspective. It's just a matter of not presenting everything told to you by the other side as fact. The reporter failed to do that.
There's also some crazy idea that all articles have to be imaginative and fantastic. Using colorful language is nice, but the ridiculous titles and over the top language detract from the content of the writing.
Your choice to war and I recall 1 war we didn't have our bank up yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
lol it was in general. See, you take things personally that it's aimed at you, what's "Sounds like the only upset person is you. You can call me a Nazi for all I care, I won't even frown." What's this for? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by FinalFantasyWorld
Don't seem like you're able to handle your emotions well? notice what BBB said? That if you want news from sources and to post accurate news handle your relationships with news sources better. If I were playing I won't offer you an interview either if you act like that, learn to be nice and diplomatic. =)
So I guess when everyone disagrees with me, the world is wrong and I'm right! I like your mentality, you will go far in this world young padawan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck
I did not enjoy that article. But seemed like some nice warring, gg to both.
Everyone is entitled to my opinion. I liked the article, and so you should have as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by tak3shi
what is all this f***ery. the article was witty. all of yall that say its biased, god damn relax a bit. biased or not it is what it is and if ppl are just going to be boring pricks when writing the article then im not even gonna bother with it anymore. that said good job OP. gj simians. ppl need a lil less flame under their butts sometimes.
"Hall of Heroes, the alleged lapdogs of Absalom." <--- considering that this is the community consensus... well, it's not really biased :P
I think HoH players (and I'm sure a lot of Abs) are just tired of hearing it. I imagine would be too.
Nice article...
Bias or not... who cares? HoH didn't provide comments so too bad, so sad.
Had they provided their side of the story and the writer still proceeded to write as is then shame on him. Otherwise, he has every right to write whatever he pleases and make anything up. It's his article at the end of the day.. don't read it if it's not your cup of tea or sue him for making false claims.