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Mask is way too big at my current position. If not, I would sure jump on it. Did pm them for war earlier on this age when we were almost at same size but got rejected. Unless I get to learn their strategy in fighting kingdom who is so much larger, if not I will BE just feeding them.
It would be redundant to give up our strategy :S
I don't believe we have warred a KD more than once since our KD was banded together.
And, our KD is excited over the fact that we're actually being talked about. We were only a ghetto KD last age.
If you think strategically, and really look at how things went, it might make more sense than you think. All things considered. :)
Lol, I prefer talking abt warring kingdoms than those top kingdoms. For instance the war between cats and war seeker is much interesting than discussing abt Abs or HOH getting the land crown or whatever. Don't get Offended. This is just my own personal view and thoughts.
I disagree.
If Sanctuary loses a war. It's game over. Try again in 3 months.
If WarSeekers lose a war. It's not a big deal. Try again in a few days (or later if they need to recover more).
One of these is more significant.
If WarSeekers lose a war. Not Big Deal. Use up explore pool and war againQuote:
Originally Posted by Palem
But who is going to beat sanctuary for us to find out if that is true Palem?
I would be happy too if you would likeQuote:
Originally Posted by Shifty11
Told you is my personal view but of course you could airQuote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Your view too. But that won't change my perception. Or maybe only to certain extent. LOL. Anyway don't blame me, I not playing at the top level that u guys deem, so I won't be able to visualize the whole picture.
Palem, care to further elaborate Point number 1 for better understanding. Thank you. Let say if WS lost a war and few provinces were chained to few hundred acres while their main bulk of players are at 3-4k acres. Naturally they only ned a few days to explore up right. For kingdom like Sant or HoH who are so huge, they wont be possibly be chained to few hundred acres right. I am trying to say, maybe they will be land drop from 20k acre to a few
Thousands, and at their size and cOndition, they still could recover through exploring right. Though it is more expensive in exploring, but they got
Much higher income compare to a
300 acres province.
Unless you are saying the side
Losing do not know how to withdraw because of ego and was feeding to opponent. Maybe that would take
3 months. Or ur 3 months is referring once Top kingdom lose a war mean goodbye to crown and wait for next age, so best is not to war and that is why i said there isn't much thing to talk
Abt
Cos being able to grow fast and securing the crown is a trade secret which is not meant to be discussed or shared .
It's better for top kds to war actually. The bonuses for winning are huge. And yes, top kds can chain people down and by 3 months I did mean they (most likely) lost their crown.
I see. Thanks for explaining.
Tagged as War, yet MASKS needs to hit into our hostile 5 times.
All class imo.
Lol, guess you are on their list. Show them the power of Faery
They need to take a number and get in line, we already have 2KDs pledge to attack us through next age. Bahahah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feint
Palem: What you had said doesn't make sense to me. If Sanc loses a war, yea they lose land/NW crown. But if a warring kingdom loses a war, chances are they will lose WW and Honour crown as well, as every age there will be a few kingdoms go undeafeated at 5+ war wins. You pretty much have to win them all to stay competitive. As well, if you lose a war, you will probably have less science then the next kingdom you face, putting you at a disadvantage.
There are situations that can still have the warring kingdom get WW/Honour crown after a loss, same as there are situations that could have a top land/nw kingdom lose a war and then still go on to win (top 2 kingdoms have a long drawn out war, as an example, leaving room for #3 kd to bypass them through land whoring)
Just a thought. I would say the majority of the utopia player base plays this game for warring, it sucks that there is such a jaded opinion at the "top" that land and networth crown is so much better. It would be really fun to see some "top" kingdoms go for WW/Honour crown some age. Just to see if they sing the same tune afterwards.
Going for honor crown has nothing to do with WW crown. And almost no one cares for the latter, simply because usually it is won by kds with 20-22 provinces that war other kds with 20-22 provinces. Not big achievement if you ask me.
The war win chart is just a race to get as many wars in as you can. Fast wins means you can squeeze in more wars. Going undefeated means nothing if you only go 5/5 and my kd went 6/8. Losing wars makes you less threatening to other kds and makes you a better target to war. Yes you do lose the time of the lost war, but there's certainly an upside to losing a war if you're going for the War win chart.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmiedema
So make the "crown" label be only applicable to 25 province kingdoms. IE whatever 25 province kingdom has the highest war win score at the end of age, wins that crown.
Either that or bring back Tournament Server :D :D :D
Damn I miss the Tournament server. Guaranteed war every week, no politics, no endless waving into rejection, just wars whether you like it or not.
On a topical note, it's too bad Band of Brothers got robbed for the #1 spot on this chart, seems like they actually earned their way to the top.
sure, fund the tournament server and it will be brought back.
warring in the top by is def just about the only way to win the crown with all the rule changes. take HoH, no war, 3rd place right now, a large amount of acres behind sanc and rage.
well and that you can as masks has shown just farm war wins :)
I don't think BoB is bothered about chart. It more of warring decent opponents and exchanging different warring strategy instead. To add on, it is tough to get war when you go higher in the chart. Don't understand why. How I wish I got a full kingdom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verminator
BoB only has 100k acres, how boring. Warring ghettos all age ... ho hum
There 21th for n/w and 8th for honor with 22 provs in world and if that's ghetto nowadays so be it. Very hard to grow when people don't want to war you unless there 25 provs and much bigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfie1010
I didn't say BoB is a ghetto only that they've obviously been warring ghettos. And not taking the land bonus for the win apparently.
You have indirectly insulted the 6 kingdoms that BOB had won. What a remark!
warwin crown is funny.
wins are wins though. as long as they're not acquired through blatant fakewarring or rigging, there isn't much basis under the current mechanics to say whose is better.
unless a kingdom has a real shot at winning the top position or something sufficiently high, why would i ever take land from war win? land is cheap as free until a fairly high level.
I thought people usually took land to share it with others :0Quote:
Originally Posted by nooblet
Mask on their way getting their seven war win, or helix will put an end to their unstoppable run
doubt the war will end before the age does, <7 days left in the age all they have to do is not push a button. Anyway Masks took 32 learns from us before any hits with helix were exchanged should be enough damage that they wont win if helix is even half way competent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feint
Yea, thanks for learn wave on us Persain, it did set us back. Hopefully we can bounce back though... Going to be a tough war regardless..
To be fair u had just sent a dragon and hit into another kds war as well as were hitting into the Mercy v ManTanti hostile. As there are no other targets around who aren't busy and u guys seem so willing to hit anything figured a learn wave would be worth it.
Bottom feeding will make this take more time, but with almost all of masks provs being bigger all they need to do it take down core attackers and then work on fae. Then they can work on getting provs oor and feed.
Don't count BoB out yet ;)
lol all they need to do is have a kd 1.8-1.9 times their size declare war on them and boom instant win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Whom has Wolfies KD warred?
That's certainly one way (sure they thought of that?). Theres more than one way to skin a cat tho. Are Masks going to win 7?Quote:
Originally Posted by Persain
I know bob beat Bravehearts which is a 5/6 this age in war and there not in the slightest bit ghetto. May have to have a rematch since everyone is running. Obviously take honor instead of land since there 8th in wol for honor which ain't bad for 22 provs.
Lestat, Mask will win against Helix. U see their news, you will know