Some People

I'd like to come to the defense of any KD dealing with outside drama while their chips are down (I.E. Simians, Sanctuary, or even <insert ghetto here>)...

Leave your warring do the talking...

Simians and its players have been known to be one of the best organized kingdoms and a few wars lost has only meant the kingdom has been able to rebound every time...which would prove to be more than just a fling like so many ghettos lost to Utopia.

Same with Sanctuary...being known to hold the most crowns means that they should k ow how to war at a high level everytime. After so many ages I can understand if a KD is unfamiliar with subpar performance but can easily should be able to find a way back up.

Perception is singular

And I'm incredibly stoned

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Originally Posted by DonJuan

Simians and its players have been known to be one of the best organized kingdoms and a few wars lost has only meant the kingdom has been able to rebound every time...
And I'm incredibly stoned

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Few wars lost? How many ages ago are we talking about? :P

And you're always stoned... that's what so awesome about you <3

get off the juice knucks

You can't sound tough and threaten to assault a girl.

Makes you sound like a butthurt keyboard warrior.

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Originally Posted by Palem

You can't sound tough and threaten to assault a girl.

Makes you sound like a butthurt keyboard warrior.

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I thought we clarified this. She is a man.

Looks like you viewed before i deleted my silly post. No keyboard warrior just some amusement for myself that i decided to take back due to laws not differentiating between joking and seriousness.

But seriously if we permanently banned those two trolls this forum would be a better place.

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Originally Posted by DonJuan

Simians and its players have been known to be one of the best organized kingdoms and a few wars lost has only meant the kingdom has been able to rebound every time...which would prove to be more than just a fling like so many ghettos lost to Utopia.

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Simians have lost 5 wars for every 1 they have won.

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Originally Posted by Anri

I cant remember any dealbreak but to Csarmi and that was one player breaking the deal to him MANY ages ago.

Meanwhile, we were dealbroken about 10 times by many KDs that siezed oppertunity to try and rape us, countless of times during the last 5 ages. Meanwhile we dealbroke no one.

After 1500 hits from absalom and friends some still cant let go and gotta bring things up. As if we did not take enough of dealbreaks and hits for Hellrazors dealbreak on Csarmi.

I feel sad for you Dharan. Whatever else you feel is a dealbreak is nonsense and i know what your thinking about. I offered Bishop acres back when Octobrev did total suicide and told us to hit him down. We just did what your KD told us to do so cry me a river. I was VERY nice to even tell Bishop that he gets all acres back. All because you could not stop crying in the forums and needed tissue after tissue. Bishop and me solved that in like 2 minutes worth of convo and it was not a biggie at all.

You still going on about it over there champ! I once again feel this is beneath of standards of moderating. Dont you have any better things to do, maybe think less about Simians and me and see what can be made ingame or to help this game. Or why not just be the cleaning lady? :)

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After all the talk about it, you still can't stop lying. The deal was you wouldn't hit into a hostile, then we CFed. You then broke the CF and hit into a hostile. You continue to pretend you broke the CF because octo asked to be hit, which is a lie, a usual occurrence with you. You broke the CF, hit octo (and hammer), then octo suicided, in that order. This sequence of events is without question as I proved in the thread about it. You simply cannot stop being a liar, it's really incredible.

You seem to be unable to comprehend the simplest of things. You live in a fantasy world where you pretend you didn't say this or didn't do that, when the fact is you are a liar and Simians will always have a trashy image as long as you represent them. I almost kind of feel bad for AB now, seeing as he seems to legitimately wants to do better for Simians, but he's stuck behind the likes of you.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

After all the talk about it, you still can't stop lying. The deal was you wouldn't hit into a hostile, then we CFed. You then broke the CF and hit into a hostile. You continue to pretend you broke the CF because octo asked to be hit, which is a lie, a usual occurrence with you. You broke the CF, hit octo (and hammer), then octo suicided, in that order. This sequence of events is without question as I proved in the thread about it. You simply cannot stop being a liar, it's really incredible.

You seem to be unable to comprehend the simplest of things. You live in a fantasy world where you pretend you didn't say this or didn't do that, when the fact is you are a liar and Simians will always have a trashy image as long as you represent them. I almost kind of feel bad for AB now, seeing as he seems to legitimately wants to do better for Simians, but he's stuck behind the likes of you.

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We did what Octobrev told us to do, that was farm him out. I offered acres back plus tissues after your whining scenes here. As if that was not enough.
I was being very friendly and nice towards everything that happend even thou your player asked us to farm him. The return of all acres was simply not enough for you because you rather sitt here and complain about small matters long after it happend. Bishop and me cleared that **** in 2 minutes. Cause if something went wrong there was the free acres back, i even was nice enough to offer acres back for the hits on Octobrev that farmed out point blank and told us to do it.

U live in a dream world Dharan

So octo told you to break the CF and hit him and hammer? Go ahead, lie, I dare you.

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Originally Posted by Pillz

Simians have lost 5 wars for every 1 they have won.

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No, our win ratio is like 50% over the last 20 ages. Why, because we normaly try to fight better kds then our own to become better and accept the challenges.
If we wanted we could have 90% win ratio or better, like all mid-range KDs only warring when they know they can safely guarantee a win. We aim for top wars vs the best opponents we can find. We dont expect to always win. We are not ashamed over our records of warring. We took many nice scalps and will carry on towards trying to beat the best kds in this game. We will not settle for anything less til we have beat them all. Once that is achieved we prob disband.

Pillz you were like 4 years old when i started playing utopia. So you dont know much.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

So octo told you to break the CF and hit him and hammer? Go ahead, lie, I dare you.

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What, no, this is why Bishop and me agreed that we should give back the acres for hitting hammer.
I was nice enough to say we can give back acres to Octo that said we could farm his land before the enemy did as well.
So not sure what you going on about at all. Bishop can confirm this and done so before also. Like talking to a wall. lol

So you are admitting you broke the CF and hit into a hostile, yet you claim to not remember deal breaking. You contradict yourself at every turn, because you can't outrun your own lies. Anyone reading all this garbage you spit must be very confused.

amused is the correct word Dharan.

All I know Anri is you started criticizing hurlin for posting his affiliation to KLA once upon a time, and yet you continue to claim to represent the banner of KLA now with all the crud surrounding your arguments and all the rest. In the end, you make KLA look worse than Hurlin, who is awesome, ever did. Its frustrating, as I said before that you insist you are the bearer of that legacy, when you are not really. Most kaers continue to be quietly active and hard working in kingdoms that are not simians..... go figure.

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for reference: http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...er-to-the-bone

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Originally Posted by Anri

No, our win ratio is like 50% over the last 20 ages. Why, because we normaly try to fight better kds then our own to become better and accept the challenges.
If we wanted we could have 90% win ratio or better, like all mid-range KDs only warring when they know they can safely guarantee a win. We aim for top wars vs the best opponents we can find. We dont expect to always win. We are not ashamed over our records of warring. We took many nice scalps and will carry on towards trying to beat the best kds in this game. We will not settle for anything less til we have beat them all. Once that is achieved we prob disband.

Pillz you were like 4 years old when i started playing utopia. So you dont know much.

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No, you do not have a 50% win ratio. You're lucky to win 1/4 of your wars. You haven't had an age with more then 2 war wins in almost 5 years.

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Originally Posted by Pillz

No, you do not have a 50% win ratio. You're lucky to win 1/4 of your wars. You haven't had an age with more then 2 war wins in almost 5 years.

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he did say over last 20 ages...perhaps they won every war they had in the 40's. Thing is best way for them to recoup their image would be to ghetto and stop growing. Win 5-6-7 wars w/out a loss for 2+ ages and everyone will slowly forget your crap. They cant do it though something about simians says we need to big, and the only age they tried to go small they messed up going all halfer and losing to some random ghettos followed by hiting into a war. Screwed their reputation even more.

Simians trying to play big only results in them farming out to eventual crown winners.

TBF did we really farm out to Havoc last age when we razed them? We slowed them down quite a bit so it was not a real farm out like Havoc claimed it was and wanted it to be. We farmed out to Havoc this age due to obv reasons, mainly our inactivity but that was not late age and should not IMO be "crown decider".

It seems everyone picks on Simians when they are least prepared and their pride will not swallow a free wave...

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Originally Posted by American Badass

TBF did we really farm out to Havoc last age when we razed them?

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1. Simians farmed out to Havoc oop last age. 2. Simians farmed out to Sanc. 3. Simians farmed out to HoH.

That is just until I left.

I can only name one kingdom who intentionally farmed out to allow a kingdom to crown, and that kingdom is Simians. It's now a part of your legacy of failure.

delete please

I think Anri has admitted to farming out to HoH that one round but most of the top is like that, "we will farm out to xxx if you don't do this or that". The top last age was very much people trying to find people to farm... If they didn't farm to hoh they would of farmed to someone else but HoH's diplomacy must of been better.

If farmers warred each other, wouldn't that be better and cure simians farm out problem? Not by pouncing on weak un-prepared kds? I think late age, simians have learnt to raze retal now... hopefully. We shall see.

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Originally Posted by American Badass

If farmers warred each other, wouldn't that be better and cure simians farm out problem?

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If Simians stepped up their game and play as well as they talk, they wouldn't have to farm out.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

I can only name one kingdom who intentionally farmed out to allow a kingdom to crown, and that kingdom is Simians. It's now a part of your legacy of failure.

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youngin :p.

I think many people should apologize.

to Lendorav: Kui kunagi satud seda lugema siis loodan et oled piisavalt mees ja vabandad Anri&Simiansi ees oma tehtud vigade p?rast. Olen ise sama olukorra l?bi kogenud ja kujutan ette kui valus v?ib see olla kuningriigi kaaslastele. Igastahes loodan et sa m?ngimist ei l?peta ja v?ibolla kunagi satume ?hte kuningriiki m?ngima:)

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Originally Posted by StratOcastle

If I wasn't in a kingdom building situation and you had a non-download IRC I would have asked to join. Simians has it's share of characters that make following your journey worth the read.
Down in the ghetto I think some might be surprised at the kingdoms that keep coming back every age. It's a charm to the game. Dig in and keep going.

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http://wiki.mibbit.com/index.php/Link

you can have a bookmark that goes directly to a specific irc channel via browser. You hardly need to download a client. your ajoin list and mibbit is more then pleasant enough.

Flutter we never farmed out to anyone but HoH and maybe Havoc this age. Depends how you define farmout.
But both of them farmed out to us as well. But under different eras, HoH did it, Havoc did it but under the name of Mercy. Not the same thing.
Last age in first war vs Havoc they went negative 1k acres but got the WW. Simians gained 6k acres despite of wding. You call that a farmout? (Goodz said we were the more active KD but lesser pumped so could not win).

Havoc waved us near EoA being 150k acres larger then us and after 1 week of razes they were negative about 5k acres and won absolutely nothing by it.

This age war, we lost, we failed. Did we farm out, i dont know. We tried our best but KD fell apart over that weekend for many reasons. Did we farm out. Maybe we did. I stopped caring, most that speaks in here has no way of ever get in that range and even try or does not got the balls for it.

And sure as hell farmouts happen each age, intentionally and unintentionally. People just dont talk much about it. Even thou its right there infront of them.
People still remember Simians for farming out when we got jumped by abs. None cares to speak about things that acctually happend the last ages and exactly who farmed who to win the age. Simians had no part of it except for trying to fight. You stupid if you think last age crown was not another charity crown for example.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

So you are admitting you broke the CF and hit into a hostile, yet you claim to not remember deal breaking. You contradict yourself at every turn, because you can't outrun your own lies. Anyone reading all this garbage you spit must be very confused.

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Octobrev told us to do it man. So it was not a dealbreak. I was being nice to offer Bishop the acres back cause he was on the same level with me.
Still is... You know when acres is offered back, its something that means we want to stay on decent terms and show that even if Octobrev told us to farm him out so that the enemy could not get his land we want to not be dicks about it. Bishop accepted this. You keep talking about it thou. I offered acres back and tissues for you. Even if we did not break a deal cause your player told us to hit him. lol

Get this into your head. YOUR player Octobrev ASKED us to FARM him! So we farmed him.
After you scream dealbreak, KDs curse at each other. Me and Bishop makes dip and i say okey we can give back acres.

Thats the end of the story, maybe it was a big thing in your little world. In mine it was not.

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Originally Posted by Persain

he did say over last 20 ages...perhaps they won every war they had in the 40's. Thing is best way for them to recoup their image would be to ghetto and stop growing. Win 5-6-7 wars w/out a loss for 2+ ages and everyone will slowly forget your crap. They cant do it though something about simians says we need to big, and the only age they tried to go small they messed up going all halfer and losing to some random ghettos followed by hiting into a war. Screwed their reputation even more.

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Lets see, x5 wars in average per age.

So, i had about 270 wars with Simians. If we happend to lose x2 wars vs Sanctuary, 2 wars to havoc and 2 fights to HoH that does not mean as much.
The kds who beat them under their strongest eras are not many. I know Sanctuary been struggling some. Say what you want, we been trying and its not like we gonna stop til we made it. Some of the wars been very rough. Havoc said we were more active then them last age war. Sanctuary we held in war for 2 weeks and HoH we have won over before. In the right days we can win and we will win. We work hard to beat the best, i dont find it challenging to take 90% wins in the mid-range. If we anytime happend to be pushed out of the top we always crushed the opponents we warred in 40s, 30s, 20s. Besides, out of those 270 wars. I think in reality we won 200 of those wars. Cause when we still were a mid-range kind of KD we did what most normal kds around that range does today. We warred many KDs we knew we could beat and there was no real competition. Sometimes we found some fun wars and took nice scalps even down there.

I dont know what you have a KD do, war absalom and maybe die trying or win all or most wars in mid-range?
There is no challenge left and it would make utopia boring. Been there done that. We have to aim for the top and we will make it there in time.
Just wait! :)

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Originally Posted by DHaran

I can only name one kingdom who intentionally farmed out to allow a kingdom to crown, and that kingdom is Simians. It's now a part of your legacy of failure.

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this shows exactly how much you know about this game

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Originally Posted by Anri

Octobrev told us to do it man. So it was not a dealbreak. I was being nice to offer Bishop the acres back cause he was on the same level with me.
Still is... You know when acres is offered back, its something that means we want to stay on decent terms and show that even if Octobrev told us to farm him out so that the enemy could not get his land we want to not be dicks about it. Bishop accepted this. You keep talking about it thou. I offered acres back and tissues for you. Even if we did not break a deal cause your player told us to hit him. lol

Get this into your head. YOUR player Octobrev ASKED us to FARM him! So we farmed him.
After you scream dealbreak, KDs curse at each other. Me and Bishop makes dip and i say okey we can give back acres.

Thats the end of the story, maybe it was a big thing in your little world. In mine it was not.

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BOOM, and there it is, another lie from the almighty Anri. octo did not suicide until AFTER you broke CF and hit us first, this was proven without any doubt by papers and logs provided in that other thread. Keep making **** up bro, I love laughing at how bad you make yourself and your kingdom look on a daily basis.

From that thread:

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Originally Posted by Anri

i told you why i broke the CF. Cause you talked crap about us non stop and treated us unfair - Thus we broke CF and hit you!

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Oh, wait, I thought you just said you broke the CF cuz octo asked you to? Yet before you said you broke cuz I was "talking crap". So which is it Anri? Are you a liar, or a liar? Well played sir, you always make it so easy for me to make you look bad.

Sequence of events backed up by logs and papers, evidence Anri cannot dispute or counter:

1. Simians hit us from their hostile with HoH, clearly tagged Simians vs HoH.
2. We retalled fairly and evenly.
3. Hits cease for 2 days.
4. Simians then hits us twice more while we are hostile with a different kingdom.
5. I approach Anri, he apologizes and says he will not interfere in a hostile, we CF. At this time, Simians hit us 9 times, we only hit them 7.
6. We continue hostile with the other kingdom.
7. Simians breaks CF without cause, hits octo and our big Avian. octo is screwed, because his army is out against the hostile kingdom and the hit by Simians seriously hurts his fight with their bigs.
8. octo knows he will get farmed now vs the two bigs he was fighting, so suicides and tells Simians to just farm him, keeping the acres from going to our hostile target.
9. Simians chains octo.

The deal break was the CF being broken followed by two hits on our biggest provinces into an active hostile. All this goes back to the OP's issue. Simians is a joke because Anri runs it and makes them look foolish like he is right now. As long as Anri is in charge, Simians image will be a very very negative one.

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Originally Posted by goodz

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This is why you're a man's man goodz, John Wayne style. Thank you.
* the anti-swifts sig. lol. I guess I best button up! *
PS: Thank you Bishop. I just now started reading the entire thread ;-)

Whole lot of d-baggery.......

I don't see too many people giving PewPew hard time for deleting. Surely that is worse than "farming out"? Why don't people jump on them every time something happens? I find that behavour much more agains the game than breaking a CF (if one does get broken).

Simians has a history of punking out, PewPew is just getting started lol. But yes, the reset was a seriously lame move.

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Originally Posted by Anri

Flutter we never farmed out to anyone but HoH and maybe Havoc this age. Depends how you define farmout.

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My definition of farmout.... going into a war that no matter how hard you think you're playing, you lose a **** ton of land/resources. Which is always followed by some conspiracy theory or finger pointing.
I don't recall Simians ever farming out or wining a war against any kingdom that wasn't a ghetto in recent history.

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Originally Posted by flutterby

My definition of farmout.... going into a war that no matter how hard you think you're playing, you lose a **** ton of land/resources. Which is always followed by some conspiracy theory or finger pointing.
I don't recall Simians ever farming out or wining a war against any kingdom that wasn't a ghetto in recent history.

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Lets see, last age we took 20-25k acres from your boyfriends ghetto.
We just dont grow into t10-1 by luck. We farm, well, everyone we get our hands on. All the way up til Havoc or whoever it is that stops us. So, yea, we are such a farmout. Tell all the KDs we give button to press it and maybe they can have some bragging rights like Havocs leaders got until we meet again.
You thou, you have zero rights. In Simians, we had to explain to you that when you play faery its a good thing to remove those d specs in EoWcf to pump so you can tog better and retrain by the end of it. Dont you have someone else to terrorize with your BS?

Stop caring so much about me and Simians. We play however the **** we like no matter what some clowns in here says

You're right, you play how you want, which is why you'll never crown, and continue farming out to crown winners.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Simians has a history of punking out, PewPew is just getting started lol. But yes, the reset was a seriously lame move.

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We dont punk out, we dont run from ppl coming at us in general. We fight hard and we war many times against odds cause we aint scared of losing.
There is no shame in losing to havoc for example. Take a look at their team. Your a sad guy that thinks we cry over losing a few wars vs the best KDs in this game.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

You're right, you play how you want, which is why you'll never crown, and continue farming out to crown winners.

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Dont you have a job to do, like moderate instead of troll? lol